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Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:19 pm

We all know that for every movie Elvis made probably 8 or 9 songs were written for any given scene.
So, now, I am just going to focus on the title of the movie.
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Was there ever a song written with these exact titles??

1) Kid Galahad
2) It happened at the world's fair
3) Tickle me ( probably not, but I am not sure how early in the process they decided to use old songs)
4) Harem Scarum
5) Paradise Hawaiian Style
6) The trouble with girls
7) Live a little love a little.

You would think any songwriter trying to get their song into the movie would at
least attempt to write a song with the title of the movie as the title of the song.

It would be cool to see some demo's of any of those titles that were rejected of course.
To me, numbers 2, 6, and 7 are the only ones that have the possibly of being a decent song.

I know in overseas markets, Harem scarum was changed to Harem Holiday because of the song, and
it boggles my mind to why they didn't change the title to Harem Holiday here in the USA.
Black Star/ Flaming star come to mind. They updated the song, and the movie title and rightfully so.

And thinking along those lines was there ever a song submitted called, "California Holiday", the overseas market title for Spinout.

This has been on my mind for a while, and too much time has passed for answers more than likely, but
hopefully this might be an interesting thread.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby Mister Moon » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:39 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:Was there ever a song written with these exact titles??

1) Kid Galahad
2) It happened at the world's fair
3) Tickle me ( probably not, but I am not sure how early in the process they decided to use old songs)
4) Harem Scarum
5) Paradise Hawaiian Style
6) The trouble with girls
7) Live a little love a little.


Surely you know there's a song with this title. ;)

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby John » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:52 pm

Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:Was there ever a song written with these exact titles??

1) Kid Galahad
2) It happened at the world's fair
3) Tickle me ( probably not, but I am not sure how early in the process they decided to use old songs)
4) Harem Scarum
5) Paradise Hawaiian Style
6) The trouble with girls
7) Live a little love a little.


Surely you know there's a song with this title. ;)

He was just testing us to see who was paying attention.

I seem to remember mention of a song called It Happened At The World's Fair, but maybe I'm dreaming. I don't recall any of the others being mentioned.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:49 pm

For cadillac-elvis

We all know that for every movie Elvis made probably 8 or 9 songs were written for any given scene.
Sometimes one song only was written for a scene and recorded. Demo versions come and go but 8 or 9 demo acetates for a scene is too much.
Most of the times between 1 till 4 for a scene with a few exceptions.

1) Kid Galahad
The movie is a re-make from an old movie with the same title.
04-10-61 – final script written by William Fay based on a story in “Saturday evening Post” in the 30’s and filmed for the first time in 1937 by Warner Bros.
In 1941 Warner Bros made a remake titled ”The wagons roll at night” in a circus setting.
There is no song “Kid Galahad” known.

2) It happened at the world's fair
For the movie "Take me to the fair" aka "It happened at the world's fair" - opening were selected the next songs:
Take me to fair - written by Robertson - Blair = rejected
Take me to fair - written by Wise - Weisman = Elvis' favorite but not recorded
Take me to fair - written by Tepper - Bennett = producer's favorite and recorded later on 22 september 1962 titled Take me to the fair # 2
(source A life in music – page 173)

Take me to fair - written by Singleton-Ott = rejected
Take me to fair - written by Doc Pomus -Alan Jefferies = rejected
Take me to fair – different song written Wise-Weisman = rejected *
* They submitted two different songs with the same title.
(source Kevan Budd)

I'm not sure but it looks there was a song written with the tile IHATWF by Don Robertson (see attachement)

3) Tickle me
Allied Artists was struggling to survive.The profits from Tickle Me in 1965 helped keep Allied from going bankrupt. There wasn’t enough money to pay a recording session. This was the reason to use “old” songs (against payment).

4) Harem Scarum
There’s a script dated 5 february 1965 - title In my harem (102 pages)
There’s a song "In my harem" written by Tepper-Bennett submitted for the movie but finally rejected.

In the script dated 11 february 1965 – title changed into Harem holiday (100 pages)

5) Paradise Hawaiian Style
On the final white script dated 8 august 1965 the title is: Hawaiian Paradise
Other working titles:
Polynesian paradise;
Polynesian holiday.

Hawaiian paradise
The original title of the script is based on this song.
The song was written by Harry Owens. The song (an instrumenatl version) was recorded for the first time on 3 march 1935 by The Waikikians (Decca 396). The first vocal version was recorded on 4 august 1936 by Bing Crosby with accompaniment by Dick McIntire and his Harmony Hawaiians (Decca 896). Composer Harry Owens recorded his own version on 13 april 1938 (Decca 1908).

Polynesian paradise
A working title of the script is based on this song.
The song was written by Harry Owens / registered at ASCAP.

On 8 september 1965 the title was changed into Paradise Hawaiian style.

6) The trouble with girls
Some history of the script:
1959 – manuscript based on novel written by Day Keene & Dwight Babcock titled (The) Chautauqua
(part 1 – 217 pages / part 2 – 181 pages)

00-05-65 – MGM sold rights to Columbia Pictures

00-04-68 – MGM bought back rights from Coumbia Pictures with Elvis in mind

28-08-68 – revised temporary complete screenplay – written by Arnold & Lois Peyser – title (The) Chautauqua original – revised (180 pages).

09-09-68 – composite complete OK screenplay with changes till 22 october 1968 – written by Arnold & Lois Peyser – title (The) Chautauqua – part 1 (180 pages).

09-09-68 – composite complete OK screenplay with changes till 22 october 1968 – written by Arnold & Lois Peyser – title (The) Chautauqua – part 2 (150 pages).

09-09-68 – composite complete OK screenplay with changes till 22 october 1968 – written by Arnold & Lois Peyser – title (The) Chautauqua (132 pages) + synopsis by Moya Morin (16 january 1969).

Chautauqua (march)
The song is written by Buddy Kaye and Ben Weisman for the movie The trouble with girls. Elvis never added his vocal to the instrumental track recorded on 23 october 1968.
The song is registered at ASCAP.

7) Live a little love a little.
Some scripts:
23-02-68 - complete screenplay – written by Michael A Hoey - title Kiss my firm but pliant lips (170 pages)

23-02-68 – final complete screenplay – written by Michael A Hoey title Live a little love a little (114 pages)

A few demo versions with other titles are known but finally used in the movie:
Wonderful world – sung over the opening credits

Edge of reality - sung in dream sequence

A little less conversation – sung at poolside party

Almost in love – sung to Michelle Carey


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:50 pm

Thanks Colonel for your contribution.
Concerning "Take me to the Fair", I did know that was or could have been a working title.

If I am not mistaken there was not a song called, Paradise Hawaiian style, and the song heard
over the opening credits was actually written as , "Hawaii USA".
Someone just decided to change the title and must have gotten approval from the writer.
I wonder if more information has ever come to light.

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Postby John » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:37 pm

colonel snow wrote:For cadillac-elvis

2) It happened at the world's fair

I'm not sure but it looks there was a song written with the tile IHATWF by Don Robertson (see attachement)

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby cadillac-elvis » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:42 am

I just wonder how many demo's were submitted for all the various working titles of all his movies.

There could be an endless series of songs that were submitted.

FYI, here is a pic of the tape box for Hawaii USA as it was titled as a song.
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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:11 pm

For all kind of reasons title of movies changed from the first day till the end / demo versions come and go.
Colonel Parker wanted the title of the movie Wild in the country should be "Lonely man" to promote the single. The producer refused because it looks like a cowboy story in that way so it stayed Wild in the country.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby kevanbudd » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:18 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:We all know that for every movie Elvis made probably 8 or 9 songs were written for any given scene.
So, now, I am just going to focus on the title of the movie.
Colonel Snow if you are out there, check this out.

Was there ever a song written with these exact titles??

7) Live a little love a little.



Live a little, love a little. was submitted as a song demo by Tepper and Bennett.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby cadillac-elvis » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:36 am

kevanbudd wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:We all know that for every movie Elvis made probably 8 or 9 songs were written for any given scene.
So, now, I am just going to focus on the title of the movie.
Colonel Snow if you are out there, check this out.

Was there ever a song written with these exact titles??

7) Live a little love a little.



Live a little, love a little. was submitted as a song demo by Tepper and Bennett.

Kevan Budd.


Cool, thanks.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:58 pm

Thanks Kevan for the additional information.
I know a few more demo versions for this movie:

Selected songs according to first script titled Kiss my firm but pliant lips

Got no time ( ) – maintitle (also selected for party sequence)
The world’s in focus ( ) – maintitle
Both songs rejected and replaced by Wonderful world

Happy go lucky guy ( ) – dream sequence
Rejected and replaced by Edge of reality.

Got no time ( ( ) – party sequence
Rejected and replaced by A little less conversation.

Try love ( ) – at Greg’s house
Tell you what I’m goin’ to do ( ) – at Greg’s house
Both songs rejected and replaced by Almost in love

Do you have information about the songwriters?


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby cadillac-elvis » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:20 pm

Thanks Colonel, when you say 'Rejected', is that rejected by Elvis or is it rejected
before it even gets to Elvis, or is this a detail we may never know?

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:35 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:Thanks Colonel, when you say 'Rejected', is that rejected by Elvis or is it rejected
before it even gets to Elvis, or is this a detail we may never know?


I think it goes both ways:
Before Elvis got a pile a lot of demo’s were rejected for various reasons – it didn’t match with the scene etc
It’s known when Elvis got a pile of demo’s and after listening to the first lines of the demo the pile is split into Yes—Maybe-No.

Before a recording session there’s a meeting between the producer of the movie and Elvis about the songs to be recorded.
See song selection from 7 february 1964 for the movie Roustabout. A few songs are mentioned – others will follow soon. The well-known songwriters were invited to write a song for a certain spot or scene in the movie.
Now the selected demos were sent to Elvis.
And even during the recording sessions songs come and go / replaced by another version of the same song.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:49 pm

Here a demo ”A girl in a (the) red & white scarf”- written by Tepper-Bennett.
Publisher Hill and Range and copyrighted 3 january 1961.

Elvis probably never saw this acetate.
The song was later on recorded around december 1960 by Tony Brady (Coronet KS 426) – Australian singer.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby Colin B » Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:31 pm

colonel snow wrote:...2) It happened at the world's fair
For the movie "Take me to the fair" aka "It happened at the world's fair" - opening were selected the next songs:
Take me to fair - written by Robertson - Blair = rejected
Take me to fair - written by Wise - Weisman = Elvis' favorite but not recorded
Take me to fair - written by Tepper - Bennett = producer's favorite and recorded later on 22 september 1962 titled Take me to the fair # 2
(source A life in music – page 173) ...


Thanks for the info, colonel snow !

For the film soundtracks, he was offered a lot of substandard stuff which he didn't really approve of.

It's odd that he didn't even get to record his first choices, either !
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