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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby TonyS » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:25 pm

reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.
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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Mister Moon » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:01 pm

TonyS wrote:I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.


As long as they are not reversed, it's fine.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:24 pm

TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.


That's all I needed to know.

I knew there had to be a photo or two out there.

People take pictures of totally unknown performers all the time at shows just because its a show.
But he was known around Memphis.

Thanks for posting.

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After thought. Tony, if you've seen them, then I would guess Ernst has seen them.
The next logical question is why weren't they in his boy from tupelo book?

the logical answer is....the person wanted too much money.

Now, another early major event we know practically nothing about with no pictures is
his only appearance on the Grand ole Opry.

I would bet that there were pictures taken at that show as well, and I bet Ernst has seen those,
and again, I would guess that the person wanted too much money, since they were not in his book.

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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby TonyS » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:17 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.


That's all I needed to know.

I knew there had to be a photo or two out there.

People take pictures of totally unknown performers all the time at shows just because its a show.
But he was known around Memphis.

Thanks for posting.

**************

After thought. Tony, if you've seen them, then I would guess Ernst has seen them.
The next logical question is why weren't they in his boy from tupelo book?

the logical answer is....the person wanted too much money.

Now, another early major event we know practically nothing about with no pictures is
his only appearance on the Grand ole Opry.

I would bet that there were pictures taken at that show as well, and I bet Ernst has seen those,
and again, I would guess that the person wanted too much money, since they were not in his book.

They were in a family scrapbook of a local Memphian and she brought them out for me to see. We were actually sat on the old bleachers at the Shell when I saw them.
A good few years ago now anyway.
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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Mister Moon » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:54 pm

TonyS wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.


That's all I needed to know.

I knew there had to be a photo or two out there.

People take pictures of totally unknown performers all the time at shows just because its a show.
But he was known around Memphis.

Thanks for posting.

**************

After thought. Tony, if you've seen them, then I would guess Ernst has seen them.
The next logical question is why weren't they in his boy from tupelo book?

the logical answer is....the person wanted too much money.

Now, another early major event we know practically nothing about with no pictures is
his only appearance on the Grand ole Opry.

I would bet that there were pictures taken at that show as well, and I bet Ernst has seen those,
and again, I would guess that the person wanted too much money, since they were not in his book.

They were in a family scrapbook of a local Memphian and she brought them out for me to see. We were actually sat on the old bleachers at the Shell when I saw them.
A good few years ago now anyway.


I hope they don't end up in a garbage can.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby reg » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:21 pm

TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.



And if I said I heard a recording of the Memphis shows in 1961 does that prove they exist too?

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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby John » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:02 am

reg wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.



And if I said I heard a recording of the Memphis shows in 1961 does that prove they exist too?

Say it and we’ll see.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:13 am

reg wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.



And if I said I heard a recording of the Memphis shows in 1961 does that prove they exist too?


years ago I read that one of the shows did exist but was bad quality.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby reg » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:39 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.



And if I said I heard a recording of the Memphis shows in 1961 does that prove they exist too?


years ago I read that one of the shows did exist but was bad quality.



Uh huh so its almost 60 years since the concerts where is it? Maybe in another 60 years right, so yeah it exists. Hey Ill bet the person who has it also has the opry show photos and maybe some of the overton park concert. Lets give them a quick call.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:21 am

reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.



And if I said I heard a recording of the Memphis shows in 1961 does that prove they exist too?


years ago I read that one of the shows did exist but was bad quality.



Uh huh so its almost 60 years since the concerts where is it? Maybe in another 60 years right, so yeah it exists. Hey Ill bet the person who has it also has the opry show photos and maybe some of the overton park concert. Lets give them a quick call.


Why so negative? Bare in mind it took almost 60 years for the live version of "I forgot to remember to forget" to be released.
New things will be discovered and will come out. it's happened before.

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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Mojo Filter » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:52 am

TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.

Great! But it's all very well saying you've seen them, but to call someone a "pessimistic" (and I know you didn't mean that to put reg down) isn't the right anology to use since those photos you've seen haven't yet surfaced, so nobody would know anything about them.

So really no one can take any sort of guess of what was and what isn't, particularly when we're talking about a period in Elvis' career that is clouded in so much mystery and speculation. He wasn't a major star when he performed at the Shell in July 1954, in fact he hadn't even stepped outside of Memphis to perform at that point. It's surprising that any photos were taken that day even if he had a bit record in Memphis.

The three photos that have surfaced from the performance we don't know when during the show they were taken? They could have been taken before the performance, after his performance, or after his encore. We can't really say.

The problem with a lot of fans their imagination runs a little wild. Some seem to think that a camera or microphone was shoved in Elvis' face 24/7 throughout his life. This is not the case even when he became famous. But during the Sun period, no. No doubt cadillac will come up with the performance was filmed sooner or later. Lol.

While I admire anyone's enthusiasm for Elvis some just take a it a little too far and let their imagination run before them.

Let's hope the photos you've seen turn up.
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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:43 am

Mojo Filter wrote:
TonyS wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.

reg, you're so pessimistic, but I'll let you in on a secret:
I've seen a couple of pictures of Elvis on stage at his first show at The Shell , granted they're not good quality, but it's certainly him.

Great! But it's all very well saying you've seen them, but to call someone a "pessimistic" (and I know you didn't mean that to put reg down) isn't the right anology to use since those photos you've seen haven't yet surfaced, so nobody would know anything about them.

So really no one can take any sort of guess of what was and what isn't, particularly when we're talking about a period in Elvis' career that is clouded in so much mystery and speculation. He wasn't a major star when he performed at the Shell in July 1954, in fact he hadn't even stepped outside of Memphis to perform at that point. It's surprising that any photos were taken that day even if he had a bit record in Memphis.

The three photos that have surfaced from the performance we don't know when during the show they were taken? They could have been taken before the performance, after his performance, or after his encore. We can't really say.

The problem with a lot of fans their imagination runs a little wild. Some seem to think that a camera or microphone was shoved in Elvis' face 24/7 throughout his life. This is not the case even when he became famous. But during the Sun period, no. No doubt cadillac will come up with the performance was filmed sooner or later. Lol.

While I admire anyone's enthusiasm for Elvis some just take a it a little too far and let their imagination run before them.

Let's hope the photos you've seen turn up.


Notice what happened.....I had no idea any pictures had surfaced.
I expressed hope that probably some did. After all it was an event in his life.
Tony comes out of the blue and states that he has indeed seen some pictures from this show.
All I did was use common sense and deduction, that the chance someone took his picture was likely.
And I was right without any prior knowledge of this. Why is that?
All it takes is some faith and the fact that these kinds of things have happened before.
If it's happened before, it will happen again.
Note: non famous people do take pictures of each other.
Note also; people who are not famous that are performing have their picture taken all the time. It happens alot.
Does anyone recognize these people? I don't.
Why would anyone take their picture, they are not even famous?
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Postby Mister Moon » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:30 am

The eventual release of unseen photos and recordings owned by private hansds is basically a matter of luck, nothing else. We need a combination of several factors for them to come out, and it's not easy that all those factors come together.

It's like one of those padlocks that work with a combination of numbers. You know the padlock can be opened but you can spend your entire life trying combinations to open it. Likewise, we can spend our entire lives waiting for stuff to come out, because it's very difficult for all the right factors to combine resulting in the release of that stuff.

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Postby TonyS » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:14 am

Mister Moon wrote:The eventual release of unseen photos and recordings owned by private hansds is basically a matter of luck, nothing else. We need a combination of several factors for them to come out, and it's not easy that all those factors come together.

It's like one of those padlocks that work with a combination of numbers. You know the padlock can be opened but you can spend your entire life trying combinations to open it. Likewise, we can spend our entire lives waiting for stuff to come out, because it's very difficult for all the right factors to combine resulting in the release of that stuff.

This, 100% this !

There's an old lady I was introduced to by a well known name in the Elvis world at an indoor flea market in Tupelo.
She was a school friend of Elvis and spent time at a Tupelo Presley home that has long since been demolished there.
We sat talking for over 80 mins while drinking coffee at a table, and her stories were great to hear.
Towards the end of the conversation she said she had a trunk at home with some photographs of Elvis when they were kids together, and I have no reason not be believe her.
I've never seen them, she doesn't seem to think they're of any importance.
When I explained what it would mean to fans like me around the world to see them she just politely shrugged her shoulders and said matter of factly that they were just a bunch of old photos. Sometimes you've got to understand it don't mean as much to others who were there as it does to us, it's just a part of their life.
It's all very frustrating, but I always try in a situation like that, but it's all I can do.
Yes I still have her name, yes I took her picture at the table that morning, yes I could get in contact again if I had to, but there's no point being a pest if she's not interested.
I can't spend any more time trying various combinations to open THAT padlock.
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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby John » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:00 am

TonyS wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:The eventual release of unseen photos and recordings owned by private hansds is basically a matter of luck, nothing else. We need a combination of several factors for them to come out, and it's not easy that all those factors come together.

It's like one of those padlocks that work with a combination of numbers. You know the padlock can be opened but you can spend your entire life trying combinations to open it. Likewise, we can spend our entire lives waiting for stuff to come out, because it's very difficult for all the right factors to combine resulting in the release of that stuff.

This, 100% this !

There's an old lady I was introduced to by a well known name in the Elvis world at an indoor flea market in Tupelo.
She was a school friend of Elvis and spent time at a Tupelo Presley home that has long since been demolished there.
We sat talking for over 80 mins while drinking coffee at a table, and her stories were great to hear.
Towards the end of the conversation she said she had a trunk at home with some photographs of Elvis when they were kids together, and I have no reason not be believe her.
I've never seen them, she doesn't seem to think they're of any importance.
When I explained what it would mean to fans like me around the world to see them she just politely shrugged her shoulders and said matter of factly that they were just a bunch of old photos. Sometimes you've got to understand it don't mean as much to others who were there as it does to us, it's just a part of their life.
It's all very frustrating, but I always try in a situation like that, but it's all I can do.
Yes I still have her name, yes I took her picture at the table that morning, yes I could get in contact again if I had to, but there's no point being a pest if she's not interested.
I can't spend any more time trying various combinations to open THAT padlock.

Let's send the heavies in.


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