New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

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New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby cadillac-elvis » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:56 pm

I just watched the Spa Guy's new video on the Radio Recorders building in Los angeles.

He posts a still of a recording log from the Flaming star sessions
and the notes states that "he is doing a completely different song solo".

Then the line is drawn down to bottom and stating that he sang, "Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game" .

This is the hit from the time by Tommy Edwards.

I would think that Ernst is saving this for the next anniversary box set.
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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby John » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:44 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:I just watched the Spa Guy's new video on the Radio Recorders building in Los angeles.

He posts a still of a recording log from the Flaming star sessions
and the notes states that "he is doing a completely different song solo".

Then the line is drawn down to bottom and stating that he sang, "Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game" .

This is the hit from the time by Tommy Edwards.

I would think that Ernst is saving this for the next anniversary box set.

I would think it's just a line. It's mentioned on Keith's site.


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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby cadillac-elvis » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:45 pm

John wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I just watched the Spa Guy's new video on the Radio Recorders building in Los angeles.

He posts a still of a recording log from the Flaming star sessions
and the notes states that "he is doing a completely different song solo".

Then the line is drawn down to bottom and stating that he sang, "Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game" .

This is the hit from the time by Tommy Edwards.

I would think that Ernst is saving this for the next anniversary box set.

I would think it's just a line. It's mentioned on Keith's site.


There is a difference here though.

Elvis has done one liners in many many sessions over his career but not any of them
are mentioned by title on the session notes.
If it were just a one liner, they wouldn't say, "he solo's on a completely different song between takes".
it's a two verse song anyway, very short, so perhaps he does the whole thing.

During these same Flaming star sessions he is heard singing "lonely man", but that isn't mentioned in the session log.
Something to think about.

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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby John » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:07 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:
John wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I just watched the Spa Guy's new video on the Radio Recorders building in Los angeles.

He posts a still of a recording log from the Flaming star sessions
and the notes states that "he is doing a completely different song solo".

Then the line is drawn down to bottom and stating that he sang, "Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game" .

This is the hit from the time by Tommy Edwards.

I would think that Ernst is saving this for the next anniversary box set.

I would think it's just a line. It's mentioned on Keith's site.


There is a difference here though.

Elvis has done one liners in many many sessions over his career but not any of them
are mentioned by title on the session notes.
If it were just a one liner, they wouldn't say, "he solo's on a completely different song between takes".
it's a two verse song anyway, very short, so perhaps he does the whole thing.

During these same Flaming star sessions he is heard singing "lonely man", but that isn't mentioned in the session log.
Something to think about.

Time will tell.

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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby JimmyCool » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:14 pm

I'm pretty sure we've all heard this snippet between takes.

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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby skabillyrebels » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:27 pm

There might be a glitch or two left yet Jimmy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby cadillac-elvis » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:39 pm

JimmyCool wrote:I'm pretty sure we've all heard this snippet between takes.


Ernst likes the edit feature alot.

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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby Colin B » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:23 am

JimmyCool wrote:I'm pretty sure we've all heard this snippet between takes.


The 2015 FTD CD: Flaming Star seemed to give us all the takes of this song, including some between-takes chat.

But no sign of It's All In The Game !

Publishing snags maybe ?

It's a pity the Tape Legend box didn't include a timing for this song !

But the notes they've put suggest it might be more than a one-liner...
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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby DarylR » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:53 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtizr2G_7Bk

It does appear that Ernst didn't include this bit when he put out the FTD of "Flaming Star."

It should also be pointed out that Elvis also sings a few lines of "it's All In The Game" during the "G.I. Blues" sessions during take 3 of the fast tempo version of "Frankfort Special" on April 27, 1960.

The other thing I wanted to mention is that the music for the song "It's All In The Game" was based upon "Melody In A Major" and was written by former U.S. Vice-President Charles G. Dawes, who also was a co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1925.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_G._Dawes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Al ... Game_(song)
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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby reg » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:14 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:I just watched the Spa Guy's new video on the Radio Recorders building in Los angeles.

He posts a still of a recording log from the Flaming star sessions
and the notes states that "he is doing a completely different song solo".

Then the line is drawn down to bottom and stating that he sang, "Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game" .

This is the hit from the time by Tommy Edwards.

I would think that Ernst is saving this for the next anniversary box set.



I love that song its a classic. But Ernst has already put this out. I have the Flaming Star FTD and it is on there. It is track 18. It's just a little bit of the song, and I think some of Lonely Man too. Anyone else have this FTD? On the box the entire note says

many a tear la la la
but its all in the game, R+B
song - probably from '60 -
alone in background
by musicians

I also love Flaming Star its one of the best movie songs I think. I was surprised when I learned it was a top 20 hit in 1961. So I guess a lot of people liked it.


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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby cadillac-elvis » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:01 am

reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I just watched the Spa Guy's new video on the Radio Recorders building in Los angeles.

He posts a still of a recording log from the Flaming star sessions
and the notes states that "he is doing a completely different song solo".

Then the line is drawn down to bottom and stating that he sang, "Many a tear has to fall but it's all in the game" .

This is the hit from the time by Tommy Edwards.

I would think that Ernst is saving this for the next anniversary box set.



I love that song its a classic. But Ernst has already put this out. I have the Flaming Star FTD and it is on there. It is track 18. It's just a little bit of the song, and I think some of Lonely Man too. Anyone else have this FTD? On the box the entire note says

many a tear la la la
but its all in the game, R+B
song - probably from '60 -
alone in background
by musicians

I also love Flaming Star its one of the best movie songs I think. I was surprised when I learned it was a top 20 hit in 1961. So I guess a lot of people liked it.


I see what you are saying and that is the spot it should be but it's perfectly evident that Ernst edited it out.

You can only barely hear a whisper of a few words, where the notes indicate something more.


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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby anchorage » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:21 am

Personally I think that the 'Complete Session' series is another hoax made by Ernst. We've had so many sessions in the 90s released by the bootleggers. They all were very entertaining. Laughing-takes, studio banter between Elvis and the musicians. I miss all this in the 'complete' series. Elvis sings and as soon as he makes a mistake ... cut .. new count-in .. next take. The only interesting things we get are the ones released prior on Essential etc.. I just don't believe that the bootleggers had the entertaining sessions and Ernst only has the serious ones. Miraculously always exactly fitting on three full CDs.

I think we'll get the 'real complete sessions' as digital downloads when we've bought all the edited 'completes' on CD.

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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby Colin B » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:02 am

reg wrote:I love that song its a classic.
But Ernst has already put this out.
I have the Flaming Star FTD and it is on there.
It is track 18.
It's just a little bit of the song, and I think some of Lonely Man too.
Anyone else have this FTD? On the box the entire note says

many a tear la la la
but its all in the game, R+B
song - probably from '60 -
alone in background
by musicians

I also love Flaming Star its one of the best movie songs I think.
I was surprised when I learned it was a top 20 hit in 1961.
So I guess a lot of people liked it.
cadillac-elvis wrote:I see what you are saying and that is the spot it should be but it's perfectly evident that Ernst edited it out.

You can only barely hear a whisper of a few words, where the notes indicate something more.


I've checked the FTD Flaming Star CD, but I can't hear the All in the Game snippet, either !
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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby cadillac-elvis » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:08 pm

Colin B wrote:
reg wrote:I love that song its a classic.
But Ernst has already put this out.
I have the Flaming Star FTD and it is on there.
It is track 18.
It's just a little bit of the song, and I think some of Lonely Man too.
Anyone else have this FTD? On the box the entire note says

many a tear la la la
but its all in the game, R+B
song - probably from '60 -
alone in background
by musicians

I also love Flaming Star its one of the best movie songs I think.
I was surprised when I learned it was a top 20 hit in 1961.
So I guess a lot of people liked it.
cadillac-elvis wrote:I see what you are saying and that is the spot it should be but it's perfectly evident that Ernst edited it out.

You can only barely hear a whisper of a few words, where the notes indicate something more.


I've checked the FTD Flaming Star CD, but I can't hear the All in the Game snippet, either !


He's right it's there, ( a whisper) 3 words i think, but I had to use headphones to find it.

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Re: New Spa Guy video completely misses unreleased Elvis song

Postby John » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:17 pm

Colin B wrote:
reg wrote:I love that song its a classic.
But Ernst has already put this out.
I have the Flaming Star FTD and it is on there.
It is track 18.
It's just a little bit of the song, and I think some of Lonely Man too.
Anyone else have this FTD? On the box the entire note says

many a tear la la la
but its all in the game, R+B
song - probably from '60 -
alone in background
by musicians

I also love Flaming Star its one of the best movie songs I think.
I was surprised when I learned it was a top 20 hit in 1961.
So I guess a lot of people liked it.
cadillac-elvis wrote:I see what you are saying and that is the spot it should be but it's perfectly evident that Ernst edited it out.

You can only barely hear a whisper of a few words, where the notes indicate something more.


I've checked the FTD Flaming Star CD, but I can't hear the All in the Game snippet, either !

At 1'59", but whether it's "It's All In The Game", I can't tell.


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