Are you lonesome tonight?

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby Mister Moon » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:04 pm

John wrote:Didn't Elvis introduce his rendition somewhere saying that he'd recorded it back in 1927? Or was it another song?


You are right - "Elvis In Person".

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby Suspicious Minds » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:32 pm

colonel snow wrote:For Suspicious minds: here's audio from the version recorded in 1926 By Bob Haring & his Orchestra. As I already mentioned in my post it's another song.


Sorry, I misunderstood your previous post that mentioned ‘another recording’. I misunderstood that as ‘another recorded version’ (of the same song). My apologies.

Thank you very much for your informative follow-up post and the historical context on the release ‘strategy’ of songs on different labels. Impressive example. Much appreciated! Thx!
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Re: Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby Suspicious Minds » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:38 pm

Elvis, ‘Are You Lonesome Tonight?’
Billboard ad, November 7, 1960

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Billboard charts, December 26, 1960

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby colonel snow » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:11 pm

For the completists more recordings from 1927:

17-05-27 - Ned Jakobs (Brunswick 3561);
13-06-27 - Vaughn de Leath (Edison Diamond Disc 52044);
27-06-27 - Edythe & Lou Handman (Gennett 6297);
27-06-27 - Jerry Macy & John Ryan (Okeh 40866);
22-07-27 - Little Jack (Columbia 1173 D);
00-07-27 - Harmony Dance Orchestra with vocal Westell Gordon (Grey Gull 1448);
04-08-27 - Charles Harrison (Regal 8385 / Banner 6061 / Domino 4020); aka Hugh Donovan (Oriole 997 / Jewel 5096);
05-08-27 - Henry Burr (Victor 20873);
15-08-27 - Harold Lambert (Cameo 1216 / Romeo 444 / Lincoln 2681);
16-08-27 - Ipana Troubadours aka Sam Lanin & his Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Columbia 1098D);
01-09-27 - Frank Munn (Brunswick 3660);
21-09-27 - Bob Haring & his Colonial Club Orchestra with vocal Vaughn de Leath (Brunswick 3673) ;
26-09-27 - Jacques Renard & his Cocanut Grove Orchestra with vocal Franklyn Baur (Victor 20978);
00-09-27 - Joe Wilbur (Perfect 12379);
05-10-27 - Majestic Dance Orchestra (Banner 6103); aka Nathan Glantz & his Orchestra with vocal Harold Lambert (Regal 8418 / Domino 4042);
07-10-27 - Newport Society Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Harmony 511 H);
10-10-27 - The Columbians with vocal Oscar Grogan (Columbia 1156 D);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart (Gennett 6297);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart as Harlow Lashley (Champion 15371) ;
21-10-27 - Lewis James (Vocalion 15633);
00-10-27 - Lew White - organ version (Brunswick 3672);

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby John » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:24 pm

colonel snow wrote:For the completists more recordings from 1927:

17-05-27 - Ned Jakobs (Brunswick 3561);
13-06-27 - Vaughn de Leath (Edison Diamond Disc 52044);
27-06-27 - Edythe & Lou Handman (Gennett 6297);
27-06-27 - Jerry Macy & John Ryan (Okeh 40866);
22-07-27 - Little Jack (Columbia 1173 D);
00-07-27 - Harmony Dance Orchestra with vocal Westell Gordon (Grey Gull 1448);
04-08-27 - Charles Harrison (Regal 8385 / Banner 6061 / Domino 4020); aka Hugh Donovan (Oriole 997 / Jewel 5096);
05-08-27 - Henry Burr (Victor 20873);
15-08-27 - Harold Lambert (Cameo 1216 / Romeo 444 / Lincoln 2681);
16-08-27 - Ipana Troubadours aka Sam Lanin & his Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Columbia 1098D);
01-09-27 - Frank Munn (Brunswick 3660);
21-09-27 - Bob Haring & his Colonial Club Orchestra with vocal Vaughn de Leath (Brunswick 3673) ;
26-09-27 - Jacques Renard & his Cocanut Grove Orchestra with vocal Franklyn Baur (Victor 20978);
00-09-27 - Joe Wilbur (Perfect 12379);
05-10-27 - Majestic Dance Orchestra (Banner 6103); aka Nathan Glantz & his Orchestra with vocal Harold Lambert (Regal 8418 / Domino 4042);
07-10-27 - Newport Society Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Harmony 511 H);
10-10-27 - The Columbians with vocal Oscar Grogan (Columbia 1156 D);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart (Gennett 6297);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart as Harlow Lashley (Champion 15371) ;
21-10-27 - Lewis James (Vocalion 15633);
00-10-27 - Lew White - organ version (Brunswick 3672);

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Goodness, it was being recorded almost every day.

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby Suspicious Minds » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:07 pm

colonel snow wrote:For the completists more recordings from 1927:

17-05-27 - Ned Jakobs (Brunswick 3561);
13-06-27 - Vaughn de Leath (Edison Diamond Disc 52044);
27-06-27 - Edythe & Lou Handman (Gennett 6297);
27-06-27 - Jerry Macy & John Ryan (Okeh 40866);
22-07-27 - Little Jack (Columbia 1173 D);
00-07-27 - Harmony Dance Orchestra with vocal Westell Gordon (Grey Gull 1448);
04-08-27 - Charles Harrison (Regal 8385 / Banner 6061 / Domino 4020); aka Hugh Donovan (Oriole 997 / Jewel 5096);
05-08-27 - Henry Burr (Victor 20873);
15-08-27 - Harold Lambert (Cameo 1216 / Romeo 444 / Lincoln 2681);
16-08-27 - Ipana Troubadours aka Sam Lanin & his Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Columbia 1098D);
01-09-27 - Frank Munn (Brunswick 3660);
21-09-27 - Bob Haring & his Colonial Club Orchestra with vocal Vaughn de Leath (Brunswick 3673) ;
26-09-27 - Jacques Renard & his Cocanut Grove Orchestra with vocal Franklyn Baur (Victor 20978);
00-09-27 - Joe Wilbur (Perfect 12379);
05-10-27 - Majestic Dance Orchestra (Banner 6103); aka Nathan Glantz & his Orchestra with vocal Harold Lambert (Regal 8418 / Domino 4042);
07-10-27 - Newport Society Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Harmony 511 H);
10-10-27 - The Columbians with vocal Oscar Grogan (Columbia 1156 D);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart (Gennett 6297);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart as Harlow Lashley (Champion 15371) ;
21-10-27 - Lewis James (Vocalion 15633);
00-10-27 - Lew White - organ version (Brunswick 3672);

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:o

Lord, have mercy! That's +20 recordings of the same song in 1 year. I notice some 'strategic release duplication' - e.g. Elliott Stewart & Elliott Stewart as Harlow Lashley - as you have explained in another topic in this forum.

There are some 'exotic' artist names too: The Ipana Troubadours, The Coconut Grove Orchestra... :P

Thank you for adding this detailed list!
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Are you lonesome tonight----historical version

Postby cadillac-elvis » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:03 am

Check this very old version of the song by the Carter Family.
Many lyrics differences, but the basic outline is there. '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22R5IgxP_pg


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Re: Are you lonesome tonight----historical version

Postby CharlieScarf » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:39 am

This son dates back to the 1920's, it was basically a musical piece with a chorus refrain and spoken segment. As usual Elvis missed a verse out (though it works perfectly). Al Jolson had one of the most noticable hits with it,
"We'll bring in The Supremes tomorrow night... Mahalia Jackson singing Lead..."

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight----historical version

Postby colonel snow » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:24 am

Maybe Elvis heard this version from march 1950 by Steve Gibson & The Red Caps (Mercury 8174)?


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Re: Are you lonesome tonight----historical version

Postby CharlieScarf » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:18 pm

colonel snow wrote:Maybe Elvis heard this version from march 1950 by Steve Gibson & The Red Caps (Mercury 8174)?


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https://youtu.be/4moyBNdDlYI


I recall reading that Elvis recorded this as a favour to The Colonel as his "wife" liked this song. (Elvis occasionally dedicated it to her). I read that it was because she was a fan of Al Jolson, but I could be mistaken... "A thought comes to mind, did I read it sometime? Or hear it, I cant quite recall..."
"We'll bring in The Supremes tomorrow night... Mahalia Jackson singing Lead..."


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Re: Are you lonesome tonight----historical version

Postby CharlieScarf » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:29 pm

Interesting that on the IN PERSON album Elvis says "One of the first records I ever recorded was back in,... 1927 I think it was..."
Listen to this 1927 version... other than the intro, you can hear the similarities... this is also the way the song is published on sheet music... seems most likely..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-UgbMIfYfE
"We'll bring in The Supremes tomorrow night... Mahalia Jackson singing Lead..."

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Re: Are you lonesome tonight----historical version

Postby John » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:39 pm

CharlieScarf wrote:Interesting that on the IN PERSON album Elvis says "One of the first records I ever recorded was back in,... 1927 I think it was..."
Listen to this 1927 version... other than the intro, you can hear the similarities... this is also the way the song is published on sheet music... seems most likely..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-UgbMIfYfE

Yes, as mentioned here.
http://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/vi ... 2&start=15

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Are you lonesome tonight?

Postby colonel snow » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:55 am

The first version was an instrumental version and recorded on 18 june 1926 by Bob Haring & his Orchestra (Cameo 967 / Lincoln 2540).
The same instrumental recording was released by Dixie Daisies on Romeo 250.

The first vocal version was recorded on 09-05-27 by Charles Hart (Harmony 431 H / Diva 2431-G).
Other recordings:
17-05-27 - Ned Jakobs (Brunswick 3561);
13-06-27 - Vaughn de Leath (Edison Diamond Disc 52044);
27-06-27 - Edythe & Lou Handman (Gennett 6297);
27-06-27 - Jerry Macy & John Ryan (Okeh 40866);
22-07-27 - Little Jack (Columbia 1173 D);
00-07-27 - Harmony Dance Orchestra with vocal Westell Gordon (Grey Gull 1448);
04-08-27 - Charles Harrison (Regal 8385 / Banner 6061 / Domino 4020);
aka Hugh Donovan (Oriole 997 / Jewel 5096);
05-08-27 - Henry Burr (Victor 20873);
15-08-27 - Harold Lambert (Cameo 1216 / Romeo 444 / Lincoln 2681);
01-09-27 - Frank Munn (Brunswick 3660);
15-09-27 - Lewis James (Vocalion 15633)
21-09-27 - Bob Haring & his Colonial Club Orchestra with vocal Vaughn de Leath (Brunswick 3673) ;
26-09-27 - Jacques Renard & his Cocanut Grove Orchestra with vocal Franklyn Baur (Victor 20978);
00-09-27 - Joe Wilbur (Perfect 12379);
05-10-27 - Majestic Dance Orchestra (Banner 6103);
aka Nathan Glantz & his Orchestra (Regal 8418 / Domino 4042);
07-10-27 - Newport Society Orchestra with vocal Irving Kaufman (Harmony 511 H);
10-10-27 - The Columbians with vocal Oscar Grogan (Columbia 1156 D);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart (Gennett 6297);
15-10-27 - Elliott Stewart as Harlow Lashley (Champion 15371) ;
00-10-27 - Lew White (Brunswick 3672);
and a few more in 1927 will follow; between 1927 and 1949 are a handful recordings to be find including The Carter family from the 30's.
00-12-49 - Blue Barron Orchestra with vocal Bobby Beers & The Blue Notes / recitation DJ John McCormack (MGM 10268);
00-01-50 - Don Cornell & Hugo Winterhalter Orchestra (RCA 20-3749);
00-03-50 - The Red Caps (Mercury 8174) ;
28-04-50 - Al Jolson (Decca 27043);
00-00-50 - Mark Stuart with Dewey Bergman Orchestra (Benida 5001);
00-01-59 - Jaye P. Morgan (MGM 12752)



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Postby colonel snow » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:03 am

The first version.



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Postby colonel snow » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:05 am

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