A Cane And A High Starched Collar

[Suspicious Minds]

According to David Neale

"A Cane And A High Starched Collar" bears a remarkable resemblance to the far older song, known variously as "Brighton Camp," "Blyth Camp," "Waxie's Dargle," but is perhaps best known as "The Girl I Left Behind Me."

The tune probably originates from Ireland, dating as far back as the 18th and perhaps even the 17th century.

The first recording of "The Girl I Left Behind Me" was probably made by the Columbia Drum, Fife and Bugle Corps in 1899 and released on a brown wax cylinder, number 12800.

https://davidneale.eu/elvis/originals/list1.html#S1721

Listen to a sample on David Neale’s site (see link above).

Another source tells us of a later recording:

‘The girl I left behind me’ (medley) recorded [by US Marine Fife and Drum Corps] on an Edison black wax cylinder circa 1904.

"Although probably an old Irish tune, "The Girl I Left Behind Me" became a popular British marching song under the title "Brighton Camp." In the years before the American revolution, it was often played when a British naval vessel set sail or an army unit left for service abroad. "The Girl I Left Behind Me" was adopted by the Americans and has become a traditional army song especially associated with the Seventh Infantry. It was also a favorite with the troops at Fort Snelling in the 19th century. Even today it is played at the United States Military Academy at West Point as part of the medley for the cadet's final formation for graduation."

https://archive.org/details/thegirl1904

Listen to a sample by tapping the link above.

[John]

According to David Neale

"A Cane And A High Starched Collar" bears a remarkable resemblance to the far older song, known variously as "Brighton Camp," "Blyth Camp," "Waxie's Dargle," but is perhaps best known as "The Girl I Left Behind Me."

The tune probably originates from Ireland, dating as far back as the 18th and perhaps even the 17th century.

The first recording of "The Girl I Left Behind Me" was probably made by the Columbia Drum, Fife and Bugle Corps in 1899 and released on a brown wax cylinder, number 12800.

https://davidneale.eu/elvis/originals/list1.html#S1721

Listen to a sample on David Neale’s site (see link above).

I can reach David's site but the link to the sound file doesn't work.

[colonel snow]

Indeed the link doesn't work; you can try this link and search:

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/

In my opinion the tune on the cylinders are miles away from the song we know. Perhaps some elements were used.

colonel snow

[Mister Moon]

When it was released for the first time on "Elvis - A Legendary Performer - Vol. 2" (1976) the title was spelled as "Cane And A High Starched Collar".

[colonel snow]

More information here:

viewtopic.php?f=352&t=6948

colonel snow

[colonel snow]

More infomration here:

viewtopic.php?f=352&t=6948

colonel snow

[Suspicious Minds]

According to David Neale

"A Cane And A High Starched Collar" bears a remarkable resemblance to the far older song, known variously as "Brighton Camp," "Blyth Camp," "Waxie's Dargle," but is perhaps best known as "The Girl I Left Behind Me."

The tune probably originates from Ireland, dating as far back as the 18th and perhaps even the 17th century.

The first recording of "The Girl I Left Behind Me" was probably made by the Columbia Drum, Fife and Bugle Corps in 1899 and released on a brown wax cylinder, number 12800.

https://davidneale.eu/elvis/originals/list1.html#S1721

Listen to a sample on David Neale’s site (see link above).

I can reach David's site but the link to the sound file doesn't work.

When you tap the link above and scroll down to ‘A Cane and A High Starched Collar’, you’ll notice that there’s a play button in the introduction, just after the sentence ‘Originally recorded by ...’.

Indeed, the link ‘Hear the cylinder’ at the bottom doesn’t work. The play button does in the intro does. On my device, it does.

[John]

According to David Neale

"A Cane And A High Starched Collar" bears a remarkable resemblance to the far older song, known variously as "Brighton Camp," "Blyth Camp," "Waxie's Dargle," but is perhaps best known as "The Girl I Left Behind Me."

The tune probably originates from Ireland, dating as far back as the 18th and perhaps even the 17th century.

The first recording of "The Girl I Left Behind Me" was probably made by the Columbia Drum, Fife and Bugle Corps in 1899 and released on a brown wax cylinder, number 12800.

https://davidneale.eu/elvis/originals/list1.html#S1721

Listen to a sample on David Neale’s site (see link above).

I can reach David's site but the link to the sound file doesn't work.

When you tap the link above and scroll down to ‘A Cane and A High Starched Collar’, you’ll notice that there’s a play button in the introduction, just after the sentence ‘Originally recorded by ...’.

Indeed, the link ‘Hear the cylinder’ at the bottom doesn’t work. The play button does in the intro does. On my device, it does.

Got it. Thank you.

[Suspicious Minds]

Indeed the link doesn't work; you can try this link and search:

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/

In my opinion the tune on the cylinders are miles away from the song we know. Perhaps some elements were used.

colonel snow

I wonder where Neale gets his info from. As you noticed too, maybe there’s just an ‘accidental’, limited resemblance. And no more than that.

IF the tune was a source of inspiration for Tepper and Bennett, I’d like to know where Neale got this info from. An interview given by the songwriters?

But it seems Neale doesn’t go that far; he states there’s ‘a resemblance’, nothing more.

[Mister Moon]

When it was released for the first time on "Elvis - A Legendary Performer - Vol. 2" (1976) the title was spelled as "Cane And A High Starched Collar".

With this title it's filed.

That's probably where they got it from.

And the acetate labels you posted above show another variation - "starch" instead or "starched".

What is a "high starch(ed) collar" anyway ?

[John]

When it was released for the first time on "Elvis - A Legendary Performer - Vol. 2" (1976) the title was spelled as "Cane And A High Starched Collar".

With this title it's filed.

That's probably where they got it from.

And the acetate labels you posted above show another variation - "starch" instead or "starched".

What is a "high starch(ed) collar" anyway ?

It’s a high collar that’s starched.

People used to starch collars on shirts so that they kept a nice shape. It’s a long gone habit.

[Mister Moon]

When it was released for the first time on "Elvis - A Legendary Performer - Vol. 2" (1976) the title was spelled as "Cane And A High Starched Collar".

With this title it's filed.

That's probably where they got it from.

And the acetate labels you posted above show another variation - "starch" instead or "starched".

What is a "high starch(ed) collar" anyway ?

It’s a high collar that’s starched.

People used to starch collars on shirts so that they kept a nice shape. It’s a long gone habit.

Thanks.

I see now what "starch" means. It was also used for skirts in the 50s.

[John]

When it was released for the first time on "Elvis - A Legendary Performer - Vol. 2" (1976) the title was spelled as "Cane And A High Starched Collar".

With this title it's filed.

That's probably where they got it from.

And the acetate labels you posted above show another variation - "starch" instead or "starched".

What is a "high starch(ed) collar" anyway ?

It’s a high collar that’s starched.

People used to starch collars on shirts so that they kept a nice shape. It’s a long gone habit.

Thanks.

I see now what "starch" means. It was also used for skirts in the 50s.

Yes, basically it's a stiffener. (no rude jokes about what Colin uses it for please).

[Colin B]

Yes, basically it's a stiffener. (no rude jokes about what Colin uses it for please).

Do you want a photo of what I use ?

[John]

Yes, basically it's a stiffener. (no rude jokes about what Colin uses it for please).

Do you want a photo of what I use ?

URR....UMMM, NO!