Kurt Russell as Elvis

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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Mountain Mist » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:57 pm

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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby John » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:59 pm

Mountain Mist wrote:

Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.

Elvis' version of what? Born? Erm..... you do know that isn't Elvis, don't you? Have I missed something here?


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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Mountain Mist » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:45 pm

John wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:

Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.

Elvis' version of what? Born? Erm..... you do know that isn't Elvis, don't you? Have I missed something here?




I simply made a stupid mistake. I don't know much about this genre of Elvis' music as a lot of this particular type, does not interest me.

Who is singing? This voice answers my own question, doesn't?

There are probably going to be more wobbly times, as my aunt, who was a mother to me, is not doing well (she has been holding on for nearly a year, now, and is determined), and I feel out of it at times, and have to keep going and be strong for my family, yet it is hard, as her daughters are understandably distraught, and we are very close, then I take a breath, and keep going, but, at times, I don't "feel there" (my uncle died a few months ago, too). It is "the time" I guess, one by one, now, perhaps I should just let myself be upset and I would be better. Going to hug a horse.



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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Rickeap » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:57 am

Sorry to hear this MM, hope you're ok



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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:00 am

Mountain Mist wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I thought Orion has the voice of the 70's Elvis down pretty good.
Check out a song called, "Born". Really nice.

Vince Everett has the 50's sound down pretty well.



Thanks, Cadillac-Elvis.

I listened, and for me, Orion's voice does not have the depth, the base notes, as his voice is not as strong as Elvis', Orion, to me, cannot sustain the note. Orion does not have the breathing nor the tone, the timing, either. (This, of course, is only my point of view, and fun for me to listen for the differences).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9vNJT3bwM

Elvis:

There is depth, Elvis' voice has so much unreleased power, that his voice surrounds the listener, and always, when he sings tenderly, his voice caresses, and also, Elvis voice is also rich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWF66JZbtXU


Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.


I agree, Elvis had a depth to his voice that no one has. I was not trying to compare Orion's voice with Elvis' other than to say
Orion, did a good job of copying Elvis' 70's voice.
the only reason I brought up "Born" is that I thought its a nice song.
Orion recorded a bunch of stuff and didn't simply sing Elvis tunes, so sometimes it give you an idea
of the way a certain song sounded if Elvis had recorded it.
And as John points out, Elvis did not record "Born".


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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Mountain Mist » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:00 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I thought Orion has the voice of the 70's Elvis down pretty good.
Check out a song called, "Born". Really nice.

Vince Everett has the 50's sound down pretty well.



Thanks, Cadillac-Elvis.

I listened, and for me, Orion's voice does not have the depth, the base notes, as his voice is not as strong as Elvis', Orion, to me, cannot sustain the note. Orion does not have the breathing nor the tone, the timing, either. (This, of course, is only my point of view, and fun for me to listen for the differences).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9vNJT3bwM

Elvis:

There is depth, Elvis' voice has so much unreleased power, that his voice surrounds the listener, and always, when he sings tenderly, his voice caresses, and also, Elvis voice is also rich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWF66JZbtXU


Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.


I agree, Elvis had a depth to his voice that no one has. I was not trying to compare Orion's voice with Elvis' other than to say
Orion, did a good job of copying Elvis' 70's voice.
the only reason I brought up "Born" is that I thought its a nice song.
Orion recorded a bunch of stuff and didn't simply sing Elvis tunes, so sometimes it give you an idea
of the way a certain song sounded if Elvis had recorded it.
And as John points out, Elvis did not record "Born".




It is all really interesting. I did not think that "Born" was Elvis' type of song, or my gut was telling me something, I have no idea, but it is interesting that I answered and experienced, my own question, and answer, which is good.

I don't know if we heard about Orion in Australia, perhaps I was not old enough.

Rick, was Orion known here in Australia? (Thank you, Rick, too).



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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:55 am

Mountain Mist wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I thought Orion has the voice of the 70's Elvis down pretty good.
Check out a song called, "Born". Really nice.

Vince Everett has the 50's sound down pretty well.



Thanks, Cadillac-Elvis.

I listened, and for me, Orion's voice does not have the depth, the base notes, as his voice is not as strong as Elvis', Orion, to me, cannot sustain the note. Orion does not have the breathing nor the tone, the timing, either. (This, of course, is only my point of view, and fun for me to listen for the differences).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9vNJT3bwM

Elvis:

There is depth, Elvis' voice has so much unreleased power, that his voice surrounds the listener, and always, when he sings tenderly, his voice caresses, and also, Elvis voice is also rich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWF66JZbtXU


Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.


I agree, Elvis had a depth to his voice that no one has. I was not trying to compare Orion's voice with Elvis' other than to say
Orion, did a good job of copying Elvis' 70's voice.
the only reason I brought up "Born" is that I thought its a nice song.
Orion recorded a bunch of stuff and didn't simply sing Elvis tunes, so sometimes it give you an idea
of the way a certain song sounded if Elvis had recorded it.
And as John points out, Elvis did not record "Born".




It is all really interesting. I did not think that "Born" was Elvis' type of song, or my gut was telling me something, I have no idea, but it is interesting that I answered and experienced, my own question, and answer, which is good.

I don't know if we heard about Orion in Australia, perhaps I was not old enough.

Rick, was Orion known here in Australia? (Thank you, Rick, too).


I am sure you must have heard and perhaps didn't know it.
At first he was a mystery. He went by Jimmy Ellis.

do you remember an album with studio created duets in which one became a big hit....."Save the last dance for me" with Jerry Lee lewis, and
they tried to imply that it was Elvis singing the other voice but it was Ellis/ Orion.

Here's the link and give it a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-PCzdpdWU


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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:24 am

Sorry, guys, but I don't share any of your enthusiasm for this disastrous Kurt Russell movie Elvis or its soundtrack.

I went to see this film when it first hit the cinema and I walked out during the silly scene where he sings "Good Rockin' Tonight" under a tree at school. That scene for me was so embarrassing, and not to mention inaccurate, that I just couldn't bare to watch any more. I remember walking out the cinema thinking "i wonder what other silly things they have put in there?!"....luckily I didn't have to witness any more of it.

It wasn't until years and years later that i happened to see the "Blue Moon Of Kentucky" scene where Kurt looked like he's having an epileptic fit while singing it, or should that be mining it. This scene is even more embarrassing than the one i walked out on to the point where it's actually funny and bizarre.

To this day i still haven't seen the whole movie and i have no intentions of doing so either.

I can understand why the movie was made to cash in on Elvis' death, and it seems it was made in a bit of a hurry, judging by the year it came out. And i'm sure it did well at the box office. I also don't think Kurt Russell was the best choice either imo.
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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:56 am

Mojo Filter wrote:Sorry, guys, but I don't share any of your enthusiasm for this disastrous Kurt Russell movie Elvis or its soundtrack.

I went to see this film when it first hit the cinema and I walked out during the silly scene where he sings "Good Rockin' Tonight" under a tree at school. That scene for me was so embarrassing, and not to mention inaccurate, that I just couldn't bare to watch any more. I remember walking out the cinema thinking "i wonder what other silly things they have put in there?!"....luckily I didn't have to witness any more of it.

It wasn't until years and years later that i happened to see the "Blue Moon Of Kentucky" scene where Kurt looked like he's having an epileptic fit while singing it, or should that be mining it. This scene is even more embarrassing than the one i walked out on to the point where it's actually funny and bizarre.

To this day i still haven't seen the whole movie and i have no intentions of doing so either.

I can understand why the movie was made to cash in on Elvis' death, and it seems it was made in a bit of a hurry, judging by the year it came out. And i'm sure it did well at the box office. I also don't think Kurt Russell was the best choice either imo.


I understand because I haven't seen it since it came out. And yes, there is a ton of made-up scenes that didn't really happen.
Some of it did but being a young fan, and just after Elvis died, I didn't really know.
but I have yet to find another Elvis bio that is as good as this one.
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Has anyone seen Elvis and Nixon....that was funny. Elvis and Nixon doing duets.

The TV series they tried years ago, was intriguing, and had Elvis sing "the mess around", which I think was on lists of rumored hayride titles.


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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby John » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:53 am

Mountain Mist wrote:
John wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:

Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.

Elvis' version of what? Born? Erm..... you do know that isn't Elvis, don't you? Have I missed something here?




I simply made a stupid mistake. I don't know much about this genre of Elvis' music as a lot of this particular type, does not interest me.

Who is singing? This voice answers my own question, doesn't?

There are probably going to be more wobbly times, as my aunt, who was a mother to me, is not doing well (she has been holding on for nearly a year, now, and is determined), and I feel out of it at times, and have to keep going and be strong for my family, yet it is hard, as her daughters are understandably distraught, and we are very close, then I take a breath, and keep going, but, at times, I don't "feel there" (my uncle died a few months ago, too). It is "the time" I guess, one by one, now, perhaps I should just let myself be upset and I would be better. Going to hug a horse.

MM, it wasn't a criticism, but it goes to show that there are singers that can sound very like Elvis. The closest as far as I'm concerned was Orion, or Jimmy Ellis, as cadillac-elvis pointed out. He naturally sounded like him, unlike most imps who put on the voice. There are loads of videos on youtube if you want to spend a bit of time having a listen to him.

Jimmy was murdered during a robbery in his shop in 1998.

Sorry to hear about your aunt. It's life I'm afraid, but I hope you've got people around you who can be strong for you while you're being strong for your family.

The longer I live, the more I find we all have these unfortunate things going on in our lives, regardless of what you may see on the surface. Look after yourself first, stay well.



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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Mountain Mist » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:57 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:I thought Orion has the voice of the 70's Elvis down pretty good.
Check out a song called, "Born". Really nice.

Vince Everett has the 50's sound down pretty well.



Thanks, Cadillac-Elvis.

I listened, and for me, Orion's voice does not have the depth, the base notes, as his voice is not as strong as Elvis', Orion, to me, cannot sustain the note. Orion does not have the breathing nor the tone, the timing, either. (This, of course, is only my point of view, and fun for me to listen for the differences).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev9vNJT3bwM

Elvis:

There is depth, Elvis' voice has so much unreleased power, that his voice surrounds the listener, and always, when he sings tenderly, his voice caresses, and also, Elvis voice is also rich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWF66JZbtXU


Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.


I agree, Elvis had a depth to his voice that no one has. I was not trying to compare Orion's voice with Elvis' other than to say
Orion, did a good job of copying Elvis' 70's voice.
the only reason I brought up "Born" is that I thought its a nice song.
Orion recorded a bunch of stuff and didn't simply sing Elvis tunes, so sometimes it give you an idea
of the way a certain song sounded if Elvis had recorded it.
And as John points out, Elvis did not record "Born".




It is all really interesting. I did not think that "Born" was Elvis' type of song, or my gut was telling me something, I have no idea, but it is interesting that I answered and experienced, my own question, and answer, which is good.

I don't know if we heard about Orion in Australia, perhaps I was not old enough.

Rick, was Orion known here in Australia? (Thank you, Rick, too).


I am sure you must have heard and perhaps didn't know it.
At first he was a mystery. He went by Jimmy Ellis.

do you remember an album with studio created duets in which one became a big hit....."Save the last dance for me" with Jerry Lee lewis, and
they tried to imply that it was Elvis singing the other voice but it was Ellis/ Orion.

Here's the link and give it a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-PCzdpdWU



No, nothing like that at all, I only heard of Jimmy Ellis for the first time, through reading about him on alt.elvis.king.

Thank you.



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Re: Kurt Russell as Elvis

Postby Mountain Mist » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:02 am

John wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:
John wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:

Of course Orion's version above is live, and Elvis' version is not; however, Elvis' voice to me, live, was similar to a studio recording.

Elvis' version of what? Born? Erm..... you do know that isn't Elvis, don't you? Have I missed something here?




I simply made a stupid mistake. I don't know much about this genre of Elvis' music as a lot of this particular type, does not interest me.

Who is singing? This voice answers my own question, doesn't?

There are probably going to be more wobbly times, as my aunt, who was a mother to me, is not doing well (she has been holding on for nearly a year, now, and is determined), and I feel out of it at times, and have to keep going and be strong for my family, yet it is hard, as her daughters are understandably distraught, and we are very close, then I take a breath, and keep going, but, at times, I don't "feel there" (my uncle died a few months ago, too). It is "the time" I guess, one by one, now, perhaps I should just let myself be upset and I would be better. Going to hug a horse.

MM, it wasn't a criticism, but it goes to show that there are singers that can sound very like Elvis. The closest as far as I'm concerned was Orion, or Jimmy Ellis, as cadillac-elvis pointed out. He naturally sounded like him, unlike most imps who put on the voice. There are loads of videos on youtube if you want to spend a bit of time having a listen to him.

Jimmy was murdered during a robbery in his shop in 1998.

Sorry to hear about your aunt. It's life I'm afraid, but I hope you've got people around you who can be strong for you while you're being strong for your family.

The longer I live, the more I find we all have these unfortunate things going on in our lives, regardless of what you may see on the surface. Look after yourself first, stay well.




Yes, we all have things going on and don't say anything, all the time (I just had a "moment", embarrassed now) as our past prime minister, Malcolm Fraser said, "Life wasn't meant to be easy". I usually don't say anything to anyone.

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