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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby STEVE MORSE » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 pm

I wonder whatever became of Ellis Presley ?


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby John » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:22 pm

STEVE MORSE wrote:I wonder whatever became of Ellis Presley ?

I asked that a couple of days ago, and TonyS replied. Scroll back Steve.



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Mister Moon » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:38 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:07 pm

Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby John » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:07 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....

Slim Whitman bought them all up and destroyed them.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Colin B » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:50 pm

The 1942 Martin D-18 guitar that he must have used for this show is coming up for auction:

https://eu.commercialappeal.com/story/e ... 479972002/

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Here is the photo on the Scotty Moore website:

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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Mojo Filter » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:44 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....

In reality, no one was particularly there to see Elvis, except for a select few who knew him like his family and Sam Phillips who were there to support him, he wasn't the headliner and no one had particularly heard of him or at least the majority of that audience. Sun 209 had only been out just over a month and only sold moderately in Memphis - it was later to sell well a couple of months down the line. So bearing all that in mind it's doubtful the audience were carry cameras, not even for its star headliner Slim Whitman who they were there to see. It just so happened that some one took a couple of photos of Elvis backstage not because it was "Elvis". No one would have predicted that there was going to be an encore to photograph.

That said, there "may" have been another photo taken but we aren't to know unless one turns up.

But don't get to thinking that the world's paparazzi was there in the hundreds photographing Elvis' encore.
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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:05 pm

Mojo Filter wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....

In reality, no one was particularly there to see Elvis, except for a select few who knew him like his family and Sam Phillips who were there to support him, he wasn't the headliner and no one had particularly heard of him or at least the majority of that audience. Sun 209 had only been out just over a month and only sold moderately in Memphis - it was later to sell well a couple of months down the line. So bearing all that in mind it's doubtful the audience were carry cameras, not even for its star headliner Slim Whitman who they were there to see. It just so happened that some one took a couple of photos of Elvis backstage not because it was "Elvis". No one would have predicted that there was going to be an encore to photograph.

That said, there "may" have been another photo taken but we aren't to know unless one turns up.

But don't get to thinking that the world's paparazzi was there in the hundreds photographing Elvis' encore.


No, but a person like Dixie locke or even Sam phillips, or didn't his parents have a cheap camera by then.
I have collected general family photographs for a couple of decades and one thing I can tell you is
that American's loved to take pictures of anything. A summer concert in Memphis in the 50's would have been
one of those places. I mean, just a year later we have color motion pictures at an outdoor venue.
I bet someone did take a picture, they are hoarding it like it's the holy grail.
Has anyone asked Dixie if she took a picture.

The one thing that frustrates me is how under documented Elvis was in his whole career, even long after he became a big star.

And yet we get thousands of stills on an event that was filmed professionally anyway....ie. that's the way it is.


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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby Mojo Filter » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:53 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mojo Filter wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....

In reality, no one was particularly there to see Elvis, except for a select few who knew him like his family and Sam Phillips who were there to support him, he wasn't the headliner and no one had particularly heard of him or at least the majority of that audience. Sun 209 had only been out just over a month and only sold moderately in Memphis - it was later to sell well a couple of months down the line. So bearing all that in mind it's doubtful the audience were carry cameras, not even for its star headliner Slim Whitman who they were there to see. It just so happened that some one took a couple of photos of Elvis backstage not because it was "Elvis". No one would have predicted that there was going to be an encore to photograph.

That said, there "may" have been another photo taken but we aren't to know unless one turns up.

But don't get to thinking that the world's paparazzi was there in the hundreds photographing Elvis' encore.


No, but a person like Dixie locke or even Sam phillips, or didn't his parents have a cheap camera by then.
I have collected general family photographs for a couple of decades and one thing I can tell you is
that American's loved to take pictures of anything. A summer concert in Memphis in the 50's would have been
one of those places. I mean, just a year later we have color motion pictures at an outdoor venue.
I bet someone did take a picture, they are hoarding it like it's the holy grail.
Has anyone asked Dixie if she took a picture.

The one thing that frustrates me is how under documented Elvis was in his whole career, even long after he became a big star.

And yet we get thousands of stills on an event that was filmed professionally anyway....ie. that's the way it is.

That's a ridiculous thing to say that someone's "hoarding it like it's holy grail" you just can't say those sort of things without any proof. It's just wishful thinking on your part.
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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby STEVE MORSE » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:39 pm

John wrote:
STEVE MORSE wrote:I wonder whatever became of Ellis Presley ?

I asked that a couple of days ago, and TonyS replied. Scroll back Steve.


You asked about 'old Ellis'. I was wondering about 'young Ellis'. :lol:



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby TonyS » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:48 am

STEVE MORSE wrote:You asked about 'old Ellis'. I was wondering about 'young Ellis'. :lol:


He got old and built an auditorium. :lol:



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby reg » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:42 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:I think he is speaking of the part where he says, we couldn't get him off, and then he says, he couldn't go on after him.
Could that be true the headliner refused to go on, because of Elvis?
Was he just inflating the myth a little there?



Elvis just excited the crowd way more than a typical unknown opener might do, Whitman was just kind of joking. He was the headliner and he played his set I am sure.



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby reg » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:56 am

cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby cadillac-elvis » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:17 am

reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.



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Re: Elvis' First Professional appearance Overton Park Shell

Postby reg » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:09 pm

cadillac-elvis wrote:
reg wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Mister Moon wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:
Colin B wrote:
cadillac-elvis wrote:This is quite an historical day for every Elvis fan for sure.

And the anniversary is just a few weeks away...


Nobody took any photos ?


yeah, I thought about that too.

You would think that someone Elvis knew, had a kodak brownie camera,
and what an event for him this would be.
Not one single photo has surfaced?
very strange. in the 1950's people took pictures of everything.


There's a couple of backstage photos from that day :

http://scottymoore.net/overton.html


Yes, I have seen those. But not one stage pic in all these years from that day? very strange.

And Ernst couldn't find one for his book either. One person had to have taken a photo of this sensation that
was getting encores.....



No one knew he would get that reaction and no one really knew who he was I doubt anyone took his picture. I dont think there are any pictures at all from this concert.


I think people did know who he was, since the phones lite up when they played the record weeks earlier, and many people that first
month bought that record. and I would guess a picture will one day turn up.


Yeah youre right, its only been 66 years now, should see a whole bunch real soon. Those phones were blazing.


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