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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Wed May 12, 2021 5:39 pm

For the movie Roustabout (working title: Right this way folks) Freddy Bienstock have sent in 13 demo acetates on 13 january 1964. Most of these titles didn't survive the pre-selection.
As far as I know there’s no demo known with the title “Right this way folks”.
Later on the movie title changed into "Roustabout" with various (demo) versions known.



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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Thu May 13, 2021 2:57 pm

kevanbudd wrote:KIssin' Cousins - Main Title, songwriter submissions, selected and rejected.

1. KIssin' Cousins (F Wise and R Starr). used
2. KIssin' Cousins No2 (Giant, Baum and Kaye) used
3.KIssin' Cousins ((F Wise and R Starr) Same tune as master but different lyrics (half used!).
4. KIssin' Cousins (Dee Fuller, Lee Morris and Clint Ballad).(Demo released on CD From CD Silver screen treasures 1962/65)
5. KIssin' Cousins (Buddy Kaye and Phillip Springer)
6. KIssin' Cousins (J Ross, K Gamble and J Renzetti)
7. KIssin' Cousins (Lenore Rosenblatt and Victor Millrose)
8. KIssin' Cousins (P Andreoli, V Poncia jr and J Crane)
9. KIssin' Cousins (Joy Byers)
10.Kissin' cousins (Pomus and Shuman)
11. Kissin' cousin' (Unknown writer - could be unrelated?)


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Kissin’ cousins – Buddy Kaye-Philip Springer

I got a mail from friend of mine (with connections to Philip Springer). In his mail is stated Philip Springer never wrote the song Kissin’ cousins. He asked to give attention to the wrong information.
Done by posting this.
I don’t know the source of Kevan Budd.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby kevanbudd » Thu May 13, 2021 4:25 pm

colonel snow wrote:
kevanbudd wrote:KIssin' Cousins - Main Title, songwriter submissions, selected and rejected.

1. KIssin' Cousins (F Wise and R Starr). used
2. KIssin' Cousins No2 (Giant, Baum and Kaye) used
3.KIssin' Cousins ((F Wise and R Starr) Same tune as master but different lyrics (half used!).
4. KIssin' Cousins (Dee Fuller, Lee Morris and Clint Ballad).(Demo released on CD From CD Silver screen treasures 1962/65)
5. KIssin' Cousins (Buddy Kaye and Phillip Springer)
6. KIssin' Cousins (J Ross, K Gamble and J Renzetti)
7. KIssin' Cousins (Lenore Rosenblatt and Victor Millrose)
8. KIssin' Cousins (P Andreoli, V Poncia jr and J Crane)
9. KIssin' Cousins (Joy Byers)
10.Kissin' cousins (Pomus and Shuman)
11. Kissin' cousin' (Unknown writer - could be unrelated?)


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Kissin’ cousins – Buddy Kaye-Philip Springer

I got a mail from friend of mine (with connections to Philip Springer). In his mail is stated Philip Springer never wrote the song Kissin’ cousins. He asked to give attention to the wrong information.
Done by posting this.
I don’t know the source of Kevan Budd.


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These are the names listed on the demo or sheet music or both.

More unused demo's credited to Buddy Kaye and Phillip Springer -

Sure I love you (for Viva Las Vegas) Buddy Kaye and Phillip Springer (for western cookout in movie)
Twice as nice (appears to be for `Double trouble` - which is mentioned in the lyrics) Buddy Kaye and Phillip Springer

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm

Thanks Kevan for your reply
I'll send my friend a message with: In this way it was written on the demo-acetate.
Case closed.
 
Thanks for the addition of "Twice as nice".


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby Thomas Weiss » Sun May 16, 2021 3:38 pm

Colonel Snow,

do you have further information to a demo called "This Way To Paradise"? It's contained on the bootleg CD "Elvis Presley Demo & Acetates CD" and they say that it was written for the movie "Viva Las Vegas". I haven't found anything yet to confirm this.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Sun May 16, 2021 9:30 pm

Thomas Weiss wrote:Colonel Snow,

do you have further information to a demo called "This Way To Paradise"? It's contained on the bootleg CD "Elvis Presley Demo & Acetates CD" and they say that it was written for the movie "Viva Las Vegas". I haven't found anything yet to confirm this.

Thomas




It’s originally included on this CD for VLV:

From CD Silver screen treasures 1962/65
Don’t fool a fool in love (unused demo) = Paradise Hawaiian style
Sweet dreams baby (unused demo) = Paradise Hawaiian style
This way to paradise (unused demo)

The song is not mentioned in Hal Wallis’ papers for PHS like the two other songs.
I don’t have other information.

In spite a few tracks are labeled wrong it’s a great CD.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby kevanbudd » Sun May 16, 2021 10:06 pm

Thomas Weiss wrote:Colonel Snow,

do you have further information to a demo called "This Way To Paradise"? It's contained on the bootleg CD "Elvis Presley Demo & Acetates CD" and they say that it was written for the movie "Viva Las Vegas". I haven't found anything yet to confirm this.

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If the acetate comes from Delores Fullers collection then the writers would be -

This way to paradise (Fred wise, Ben Weisman and Dee Fuller).

another song with the same title was submitted with Hawaiian music style backing -

This way to paradise (Fred wise and Randy Star)

It seems unlikely to be for Viva Las Vegas, more likely Paradise Hawaiian style, though it's still unclear.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun May 16, 2021 11:13 pm

kevanbudd wrote:
Thomas Weiss wrote:Colonel Snow,

do you have further information to a demo called "This Way To Paradise"? It's contained on the bootleg CD "Elvis Presley Demo & Acetates CD" and they say that it was written for the movie "Viva Las Vegas". I haven't found anything yet to confirm this.

Thomas


If the acetate comes from Delores Fullers collection then the writers would be -

This way to paradise (Fred wise, Ben Weisman and Dee Fuller).

another song with the same title was submitted with Hawaiian music style backing -

This way to paradise (Fred wise and Randy Star)

It seems unlikely to be for Viva Las Vegas, more likely Paradise Hawaiian style, though it's still unclear.

Kevan Budd.


Just a guess, but perhaps "This way to Paradise" could have been another paradise themed song
for Harem Scarem, for the scene of "so close to paradise"

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 am

I strongly believe the version of "This way to paradise" on CD Silver screen treasures 1962/65 is a demo from Dolores Fuller like a lot of tracks on this CD.
I don't have other information.

I don't think "This way to paradise" can be linked with Harem scarem. The song is not mentioned in the last song selections.

It's always fascinating to know how the (final) song selection for a movie / recording session was done.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Tue May 18, 2021 6:29 pm

From the movie Spinout - I’m having a ball
According to the script from 4 february 1966 the song was mentioned for:
page 73 – scene 164 – sung at a party.
I don’t have information about demo versions.
Finally selected for this scene 164 Spinout (reprise)

A song with the same title was recorded on 22 november 1965 by Johny Young & his Chicago Blues Band for an album. I don’t think it’s the same song mentioned in the script.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Fri May 21, 2021 5:06 pm

I have loved you in my fashion
The song was suggested for scene 51 in the movie Wild in the country according to the script page 46.
I don't have other information.
Selected / recorded for this scene: In my way.
(thanks to Ed A for the scan)

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby kevanbudd » Mon May 24, 2021 7:44 pm

colonel snow wrote:For the movie Kissin’ cousins is not much known about submitted demo versions:

Possum tails gizzards and grits
According to the script page 32 – scene 92 Jodie starts to sing this song; the song never made it to the final song selection for the movie. The song was written by Rick Ward and Sid Feller.

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There were at least two songs submitted called Possum tails gizzards and grits.

The better one is Rick Ward and Sid Feller, the other is currently writer/s unknown, but is even more forgettable.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Wed May 26, 2021 9:33 pm

See post from 13 may 2021

I got another mail from a friend of mine (with connections to Philip Springer). In this mail is stated Philip Springer (with Buddy Kaye) never wrote the songs Sure I love you (VLV) and Twice as nice (Double trouble).
At the time I’ve replied these names were mentioned on the label for Kissin’ cousins..

He asked to give attention again to the wrong information because they’ve checked the administration of Philip Springer. Nothing found about these two songs?.
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I don’t know the source of Kevan Budd. Maybe he can answer the question about the songwriters for these two songs?.


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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby kevanbudd » Wed May 26, 2021 10:22 pm

colonel snow wrote:See post from 13 may 2021

I got another mail from a friend of mine (with connections to Philip Springer). In this mail is stated Philip Springer (with Buddy Kaye) never wrote the songs Sure I love you (VLV) and Twice as nice (Double trouble).
At the time I’ve replied these names were mentioned on the label for Kissin’ cousins..

He asked to give attention again to the wrong information because they’ve checked the administration of Philip Springer. Nothing found about these two songs?.
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I don’t know the source of Kevan Budd. Maybe he can answer the question about the songwriters for these two songs?.


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Again the song writers are listed on the demo acetate or sheet music or both.

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Re: Song Demo's I have never heard of

Postby colonel snow » Thu May 27, 2021 8:53 am

Thanks Kevan for your reply.
I'll send my friend a message again: the names were written on the demo-acetates.
I know some songwriters have mentioned their names on the demo acetate (sometimes the scene & movie).

Still a question about these demos: Are the names of songwriter(s) on these demos handwritten or typed on the label? Are the demos sent in on Associated Recording Studio – label (see scan) or another label.



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