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Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby Harty » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:37 pm

Colonel Snow is my master for the hidden / planned songs / demo songs for the movie song sessions. Also we know a lot about the regular
studio takes like the aborted takes, the count of song takes etc. But I never found any detailed information about the planned songs for the studio sessions. So which songs were regular planned for his studio sessions ? Maybe there are interesting surprises.

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby picturefan » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:12 pm

Read the book of Ernst: "a life in music".
There you have examples in spades.

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby colonel snow » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:45 pm

Suggested songs for the first recording session on 10-11 january 1956.
With all recording sessions songs come and go until the last minute.

Some information:
I need a good girl bad (Cy Cober – Delmore Music BMI) copyrighted 06-03-56
It was not recorded by Elvis. It was recorded on 13-02-56 by Wade Ray (RCA 47-6544).

Fallen angel It was not recorded by Elvis.
Written in late1955 a version by:
1 – Ben Raleigh & Ben Weisman (Edward B. Marcks Music) – copyrighted 07-11-55;
2 – Stanford & Irving Stanford (Stanford Music) – copyrighted 16-08-55;

I have found several artists which recorded a song with this title between 1954-1957.
I don't know if they all recorded the same song as I have no information about songwriters and composers.

Wham bam hot ziggety zam
It was not recorded by Elvis. I found a recording from early 1956 by Terry Fell (RCA 47-6515).

Doorstep to heaven (Leon Payne – BMI)
It was not recorded by Elvis. I have found recordings in 1956 by Leon Payne and Carl Smith.
Leon Payne recorded the song in september 1955 (Stardust 220).
Carl Smith recorded the song on 28 february 1956 (Columbia 21522).

I don't think it's interesting because Elvis heard the demo version and the song was rejected. This kind of letters don't reveal any surprises.


Besides we have an old section "rejected songs" here on this forum.

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby kevanbudd » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:24 pm

colonel snow wrote:Suggested songs for the first recording session on 10-11 january 1956.
With all recording sessions songs come and go until the last minute.

Some information:

Fallen angel It was not recorded by Elvis.
Written in late1955 a version by:
1 – Ben Raleigh & Ben Weisman (Edward B. Marcks Music) – copyrighted 07-11-55;
2 – Stanford & Irving Stanford (Stanford Music) – copyrighted 16-08-55;

I have found several artists which recorded a song with this title between 1954-1957.
I don't know if they all recorded the same song as I have no information about songwriters and composers.

colonel snow


This is the performance and song offered to Elvis -

Fallen Angel - The four fellows - Ben Raleigh/Ben Weisman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNm_6NfdRm8

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby colonel snow » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:27 pm

Thanks Kevan for this additional information.

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby colonel snow » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:30 pm

Also it’s the other way around:
example:
Western Union was selected for the movie Girls girls girls; replaced by Return to sender in the movie and finally recorded in the studio (27 may 1963).

The recorded song was originally selected again for the movie Speedway with other previously recorded songs; however the idea was cancelled and new songs were recorded for the movie.

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby John » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:35 pm

kevanbudd wrote:
colonel snow wrote:Suggested songs for the first recording session on 10-11 january 1956.
With all recording sessions songs come and go until the last minute.

Some information:

Fallen angel It was not recorded by Elvis.
Written in late1955 a version by:
1 – Ben Raleigh & Ben Weisman (Edward B. Marcks Music) – copyrighted 07-11-55;
2 – Stanford & Irving Stanford (Stanford Music) – copyrighted 16-08-55;

I have found several artists which recorded a song with this title between 1954-1957.
I don't know if they all recorded the same song as I have no information about songwriters and composers.

colonel snow


This is the performance and song offered to Elvis -

Fallen Angel - The four fellows - Ben Raleigh/Ben Weisman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNm_6NfdRm8

Kevan Budd.

Pleasant, nothing special. Standard and predictable chord progression. I wonder what Elvis would have done with it though?

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby John » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:37 pm

colonel snow wrote:Wham bam hot ziggety zam
It was not recorded by Elvis. I found a recording from early 1956 by Terry Fell (RCA 47-6515).


It's terrible. Yeesh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWLUkh5OmBE

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby John » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:41 pm

colonel snow wrote:Some information:
I need a good girl bad (Cy Cober – Delmore Music BMI) copyrighted 06-03-56
It was not recorded by Elvis. It was recorded on 13-02-56 by Wade Ray (RCA 47-6544).


Another one that fortunately Elvis passed up on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySfBSWHlS7w

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby John » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:47 pm

colonel snow wrote:Doorstep to heaven (Leon Payne – BMI)
It was not recorded by Elvis. I have found recordings in 1956 by Leon Payne and Carl Smith.
Leon Payne recorded the song in september 1955 (Stardust 220).
Carl Smith recorded the song on 28 february 1956 (Columbia 21522).


I reckon Elvis could have done a reasonable job with this, but I'm glad he didn't try it. It's plodding, not helped by the fact that it's in 3/4 waltz time. Too country!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7BOrFRkH9I

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby Mister Moon » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:50 pm

kevanbudd wrote:This is the performance and song offered to Elvis -

Fallen Angel - The four fellows - Ben Raleigh/Ben Weisman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNm_6NfdRm8



This is interesting. Thank you.

The Four Fellows also recorded the original of "Soldier Boy", in 1955.

There's a song called "Fallen Angel" by Hardrock Gunter, and it was released as Sun single 201, a couple of months before Elvis' debut, May 1954. It's an old-fashioned western swing dittie that could as well have been recorded in 1934 instead of 1954. No wonder Phillips blew his mind when he heard The Memphis Flash in full flight.



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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby colonel snow » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:35 am

I’m honoured you call me a master in the first post of this topic; but don’t forget Kevan Budd. He's the "head"master. He knows a lot more about this subject.

Besides it's double posted >>> see link

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3684&p=26813&hilit=fallen+angel#p26813

For me there's no need to add more information because it's already in the rejected songs section.


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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby Harty » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:52 pm

Sure. Kevan you are the "head" master for sure. Its very interesting to read these informations.

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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby Mister Moon » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:06 pm

This is off-topic but I can't help posting this.

From my dusty vaults, the autograph Hardrock Gunter signed for me in 1996, during his visit to Europe for a few live appearances. He was 71 - only 17 months younger than Hank Williams, whom he acquainted frequently. Both men were from Alabama, by the way.

Anybody else here has a Hardrock Gunter autograph ? ;)



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Re: Songs planned for regular studio session

Postby Mojo Filter » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:22 am

Mister Moon wrote:This is off-topic but I can't help posting this.

From my dusty vaults, the autograph Hardrock Gunter signed for me in 1996, during his visit to Europe for a few live appearances. He was 71 - only 17 months younger than Hank Williams, whom he acquainted frequently. Both men were from Alabama, by the way.

Anybody else here has a Hardrock Gunter autograph ? ;)



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Very Cool!

I doubt if many people have heard of him on this message board, let alone seek out to see him and get an autograph.

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