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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby John » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:29 am

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Colin B wrote:Quote of the Day - 10th August:

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Debbie Reynolds may have had her faults, Eddie, but when you were married, you cheated on her with Elizabeth Taylor...
John wrote:and who are we to judge why he cheated on her?


We're entitled to an opinion about his behaviour, & to get that, we have to make a judgement.

That judgement may be inaccurate due to us not having all the facts, but we can only work with what we have...

We don't have to make a judgement. There is no need to make a judgement. How can you have an opinion about his behaviour when you do not know the facts?

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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:46 am

Colin B wrote:Quote of the Day - 10th August:

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Debbie Reynolds may have had her faults, Eddie, but when you were married, you cheated on her with Elizabeth Taylor...
John wrote:and who are we to judge why he cheated on her?
Colin B wrote:We're entitled to an opinion about his behaviour, & to get that, we have to make a judgement.
That judgement may be inaccurate due to us not having all the facts, but we can only work with what we have...
John wrote:We don't have to make a judgement. There is no need to make a judgement. How can you have an opinion about his behaviour when you do not know the facts?


You form an opinion & make a judgement based on what you do know.

I don't need written proof of all the facts to judge that the US has a piss-poor president.

We make judgements all the time based on what we perceive to be the facts.

If we didn't, we couldn't have opinions.

Most of us were of the opinion that Jimmy Savile was a well-meaning, if slightly odd, sort of character.

Our judgement & opinion changed when all the facts came out.
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby John » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:10 am

Colin B wrote:
Colin B wrote:Quote of the Day - 10th August:

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Debbie Reynolds may have had her faults, Eddie, but when you were married, you cheated on her with Elizabeth Taylor...
John wrote:and who are we to judge why he cheated on her?
Colin B wrote:We're entitled to an opinion about his behaviour, & to get that, we have to make a judgement.
That judgement may be inaccurate due to us not having all the facts, but we can only work with what we have...
John wrote:We don't have to make a judgement. There is no need to make a judgement. How can you have an opinion about his behaviour when you do not know the facts?


You form an opinion & make a judgement based on what you do know.

I don't need written proof of all the facts to judge that the US has a piss-poor president.

We make judgements all the time based on what we perceive to be the facts.

If we didn't, we couldn't have opinions.

Most of us were of the opinion that Jimmy Savile was a well-meaning, if slightly odd, sort of character.

Our judgement & opinion changed when all the facts came out.

I was speaking specifically about Eddie Fisher. You made a judgement on very little information based on the quote of the day.

As far as Trump is concerned, that is very different, and a poor example. By the way, no one mentioned anything about written proof.

As far as opinions are concerned, they are worthless. They mean nothing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no value to an opinion, other than to yourself, therefore often they are not even worth sharing. You have an opinion that Cliff Richard is crap. It means nothing though. It's completely irrelevant.

I suggest you watch the Henry Fonda film, 12 Angry Men.


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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Mountain Mist » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:15 am

Jimmy Savile was so creepy, I do not understand how so many people did not know it, perhaps it is a female thing to pick up on.

It was that person's manner, his vibes, his mannerisms, the way he looked at people, he oozed '"creep".

Just sayin'

"Warning, warning".

https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+s ... 66&bih=625

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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:23 am

Mountain Mist wrote:Jimmy Savile was so creepy, I do not understand how so many people did not know it, perhaps it is a female thing to pick up on.

It was that person's manner, his vibes, his mannerisms, the way he looked at people, he oozed '"creep".

Just sayin'

"Warning, warning".

https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+s ... 66&bih=625


You might be on to something there because my daughter found him very 'creepy' when others [including me] just put him down as a bit 'eccentric'
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:32 am

John wrote:I was speaking specifically about Eddie Fisher.
You made a judgement on very little information based on the quote of the day.

As far as Trump is concerned, that is very different, and a poor example. By the way, no one mentioned anything about written proof.

As far as opinions are concerned, they are worthless. They mean nothing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no value to an opinion, other than to yourself, therefore often they are not even worth sharing. You have an opinion that Cliff Richard is crap. It means nothing though. It's completely irrelevant.

I suggest you watch the Henry Fonda film, 12 Angry Men.


How can you possibly know what information my judgement was based on ?

The usefullness of 'opinions' is that, by expressing your own, you discover whether there are others who share yours !

Hardly worthless, meaningless or irrelevant, in my opinion.

I've not only watched that film, but I've served on several real juries [twice as the foreman juror].
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby John » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 am

Colin B wrote:
John wrote:I was speaking specifically about Eddie Fisher.
You made a judgement on very little information based on the quote of the day.

As far as Trump is concerned, that is very different, and a poor example. By the way, no one mentioned anything about written proof.

As far as opinions are concerned, they are worthless. They mean nothing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no value to an opinion, other than to yourself, therefore often they are not even worth sharing. You have an opinion that Cliff Richard is crap. It means nothing though. It's completely irrelevant.

I suggest you watch the Henry Fonda film, 12 Angry Men.


How can you possibly know what information my judgement was based on ?
You said it quite clearly. It was based on the quote of the day.
The usefullness of 'opinions' is that, by expressing your own, you discover whether there are others who share yours !
Still worthless. So what?
Hardly worthless, meaningless or irrelevant, in my opinion.
See, it's just your opinion, to me it's worthless. The fact that I think so is worthless to you.
I've not only watched that film, but I've served on several real juries [twice as the foreman juror].
And?


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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Mountain Mist » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 am

Colin B wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:Jimmy Savile was so creepy, I do not understand how so many people did not know it, perhaps it is a female thing to pick up on.

It was that person's manner, his vibes, his mannerisms, the way he looked at people, he oozed '"creep".

Just sayin'

"Warning, warning".

https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+s ... 66&bih=625


You might be on to something there because my daughter found him very 'creepy' when others [including me] just put him down as a bit 'eccentric'



Yep, good on your daughter.

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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 pm

Quote of the Day - 13th August:


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Wise words, Iqbal !
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:44 pm

Mountain Mist wrote:Yep, good on your daughter.


Yeah - she's quite a girl !

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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Mountain Mist » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:12 am

Colin B wrote:
Mountain Mist wrote:Yep, good on your daughter.


Yeah - she's quite a girl !

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Your daughter looks like she would keep you in line, Colin.

Ha!

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Postby Colin B » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:40 am

Mountain Mist wrote:Your daughter looks like she would keep you in line, Colin.

Ha!


She does !
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:06 am

Quote of the Day - 14th August:

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I think I've done just that, Wim !
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:21 am

Quote of the Day - 15th August:


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Surely life isn't that bad, T.E. ?
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Re: Quote of the Day

Postby Colin B » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:07 am

Quote of the Day - 16th August:

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Not a bad outlook on life, Madonna, could do without the god bit, though...
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