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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby colonel snow » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:57 pm

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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby WalterHaleJnr » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:58 pm

shanebrown wrote:
Matt Helm wrote:shanebrown...what is the clue? We have a FTD announcement and the "crazy party" is goin' on?! You, as a book author and as an ELVIS specialist, btw your 1st book is a very good one imo, could be a little bit cautious for the forthcoming FTD's...that's all, nothing more and nothing less. Matt


Considering the less than rapturous reception for the latest FTDs and now the release of the 17th 1976 soundboard as part of the next batch on the label, it is perfectly sensible to discuss what is forthcoming and why.


To me it makes sense to release the actual bicentenial concert. You hit the nail on the head re. the large number of concerts that the FTD label have released just from 1976 alone. I agree.



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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby StefanKock » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:48 pm

Jukebox wrote:
StefanKock wrote:... as a collector, I welcome a 1976 soundboard version of 'American Trilogy'.

Even if it's not performed as well as years past?


Yes, the quality of the performance itself is more important to me as a fan than as a collector. The collector in me wants that soundboard version of a 1976 American Trilogy. If the quality of the performance equals my expectations as a fan, well, we'll just have to wait and see.



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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Rickeap » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:14 am

The addition of an October concert with the July 4 gig is a bit strange. Sadly tyhere's not enough alternate material on Kissin' Cousins to entice me to buy it.



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Postby shanebrown » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:34 am

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shanebrown wrote:
Matt Helm wrote:shanebrown...what is the clue? We have a FTD announcement and the "crazy party" is goin' on?! You, as a book author and as an ELVIS specialist, btw your 1st book is a very good one imo, could be a little bit cautious for the forthcoming FTD's...that's all, nothing more and nothing less. Matt


Considering the less than rapturous reception for the latest FTDs and now the release of the 17th 1976 soundboard as part of the next batch on the label, it is perfectly sensible to discuss what is forthcoming and why.


To me it makes sense to release the actual bicentenial concert. You hit the nail on the head re. the large number of concerts that the FTD label have released just from 1976 alone. I agree.


I'm not sure that is it - unless it's a surprisingly good effort from Elvis. The Memphis show from the same tour is known to be of excellent sound quality, a very good show for the period (possibly the best of mid-1976), and its release over two discs would allow for the second disc to be filled with other tracks from the same period of interest (such as a 1976 Trilogy). The Memphis show has, of course, been out on bootleg, but I'm not sure why that should make any difference. And I certainly think that Elvis giving his final Memphis performance is of more historical importance than the 4th July show, which might excite Americans, but is of no significance to the rest of us.



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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby cadillac-elvis » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:35 am

But, hasn't FTD already put out Memphis shows, from 1974, 1975, for a total of 4 shows? do we need more memphis shows at this time?

that might have been the deciding factor here. At least this show is from a different city than previously done. Just a thought.


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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:39 am

shanebrown wrote:One has to wonder who exactly is prioritising what FTD is releasing and why. Kissin Cousins, fine. It was going to come out sooner or later - although why the mono masters aren't included is anybody's guess given the lack of unreleased material and outtakes. But ANOTHER release from 1976 - and not even from the March tour which so far hasn't been represented on FTD at all, despite being good for the period. When I look at lists of legendary live shows by great artists, I have never seen this one from Elvis turn up on the list. I realise that FTD is clearly running out of material, but when there are still 2 unreleased shows from 1969, virtually all of the TTWII rehearsals yet to appear officially, and the 1956/7 TV shows in dire need of audio upgrade, having last been available in 1998, one has to wonder who is coming up with this release strategy. I'd even be happy for FTD to re-release the Jan/Feb 1972 multitracks considering how bad they sounded on American Trilogy release. Pair them up with the soundboard of the opening night, a show which deserves to be released officially anyway. It's almost as if material for release is being chosen at random. "Oh look, that tape fell on the floor, let's release that."

Some people like these releases and your view/opinion on these and the FTD label do not match other people's thinking.

Yes, there could be better releases as far as soundboards go, as the examples you've mentioned, maybe someday they we see a release in the future.

As for me, I'll be skipping these releases not really my bag.
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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:45 am

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Matt Helm wrote:Oh yes Suspicious Minds...it's been a long while ago (69-73), but so what, i'm looking forward for the NEW FTD's, yes sir. Matt


I'm happy for you, Matt. I think the main 'complaint' about the new 76 show, is not so much (or not necessarily) about the show itself, but about the fact that FTD releases yet another show from the later years. A bit more variation would be welcome, imo.

The good ones will come I'm sure.

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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:55 am

colonel snow wrote:A few of the instrumental tracks for Kissin' cousins mentioned on this release are different to what's circulating on tapes/ CDR like Anyone 2010 take 5 / Barefoot ballad 2009 take 7 and others. At any case "new" instrumental tracks here.
Probabbly no space to release all instrumental tracks?

see viewtopic.php?f=352&t=6954


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I don't think having instrumental tracks would appeal too much to fans. And maybe that could be the answer why they are not included.

As for the mono masters they could have included them. Who knows why they didn't.
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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Tulsa Mclean » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:57 am

Mojo Filter wrote:
colonel snow wrote:A few of the instrumental tracks for Kissin' cousins mentioned on this release are different to what's circulating on tapes/ CDR like Anyone 2010 take 5 / Barefoot ballad 2009 take 7 and others. At any case "new" instrumental tracks here.
Probabbly no space to release all instrumental tracks?

see https://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/v ... 352&t=6954


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I don't think having instrumental tracks would appeal too much to fans. And maybe that could be the answer why they are not included.

As for the mono masters they could have included them. Who knows why they didn't.


Maybe it will be included on the LP release like they will do with the upcoming FTD Roustabout 2 lp set!.
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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Mojo Filter » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:08 pm

Tulsa Mclean wrote:
Mojo Filter wrote:
colonel snow wrote:A few of the instrumental tracks for Kissin' cousins mentioned on this release are different to what's circulating on tapes/ CDR like Anyone 2010 take 5 / Barefoot ballad 2009 take 7 and others. At any case "new" instrumental tracks here.
Probabbly no space to release all instrumental tracks?

see viewtopic.php?f=352&t=6954


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I don't think having instrumental tracks would appeal too much to fans. And maybe that could be the answer why they are not included.

As for the mono masters they could have included them. Who knows why they didn't.


Maybe it will be included on the LP release like they will do with the upcoming FTD Roustabout 2 lp set!.

Yes, I'm sure they will. It'll make the album sell just that little bit more - which is probably why they do it.

I think these FTD LPs are great. The art work and packaging is great and so different from the original. I don't own all of them but I do have the "Elvis Is Back" one which is my fav - great photo used.

ftd_vinyl_297_felvisisbacksessions.jpg


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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby TonyS » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:11 pm

Kissin' Cousins I'll buy.... more 76 shows.... NO THANKS.



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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Jukebox » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:58 pm

Rickeap wrote:The addition of an October concert with the July 4 gig is a bit strange.

The only connection I can imagine is if Elvis makes reference to the July 4th show during the October show.

I'm low on funds at this time, so I won't be able to purchase these new releases, but I'm hoping that they are enjoyable for anyone who gets them. Ernst has come a long way with FTD. Who would've ever imagined that the label would be as successful as it's been?
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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Matt Helm » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:45 pm

shanebrown wrote:
Matt Helm wrote:shanebrown...what is the clue? We have a FTD announcement and the "crazy party" is goin' on?! You, as a book author and as an ELVIS specialist, btw your 1st book is a very good one imo, could be a little bit cautious for the forthcoming FTD's...that's all, nothing more and nothing less. Matt


Considering the less than rapturous reception for the latest FTDs and now the release of the 17th 1976 soundboard as part of the next batch on the label, it is perfectly sensible to discuss what is forthcoming and why.

With all of my respect shanebrown, i know what you mean...but the cow is milked so far. I think some Mulitracks are in the can and most of all the ON TOUR stuff are still unreleased...BUT before do judge a new future release, please listen to it when you get it, that's all...and i'm NOT A FAN of ELVIS' Output 1976-1977 studio or live. Matt



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Re: 2 new november 2017 FTD releases

Postby Matt Helm » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:15 pm

Yes Jukebox i know and thank you pal...BUT we read about (CD/Music) a new FTD announcement...wowww....the internet-storm is goin' on. Yes i know i'm in a forum, btw i'm proud to be involved on elvisphoenix, but a discussion for the forthcoming CD's is... a little bit strange, don't you think so? Let the new FTD's coming in...so what, and let's discuss after the postman rings on our doorbells. Shanebrown makes some legitimate point btw it is also my opinion, YES,...but...! Matt


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