Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby Nolan Truth » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:22 pm

rockinrebel wrote:I have no interest in the MRS title. They've made a right mess of the audio, .

Yep.
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby Colin B » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:33 pm

I've heard it in better audio quality now.

At least his voice is audible !
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby alberta sheffield » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:04 pm

scottwalker wrote:
TheKingForever wrote:Sadly this isnt something I can enjoy.
I`m very picky when it comes to sound quality so I cant even
listen to the 1961 show and enjoy that.



The Elvis of 1956 is still the same Elvis from 1974.

No. He is not. Not even remotely close.
Or would you tell me that Hound Dog from 1956 is the same as sung by Elvis in 1974? :roll:



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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby Greg1935 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:11 pm

Its good to know many here claim that my YT channel audio (as restored by Anthony Stuchbury) is better than the MRS release one. I also think so.

For me the MRS sound is a total unlistenable, artificial, fake stereo crap. I cannot listen to it. And that was my honest, initial reaction upon hearing it. Not because of any agenda.

My own, premiere physical release didn't happen and I felt it, but I had to accept the pain and just move on.

I will keep doing what I'm doing.

If any of you would like to reward my work and research having originally found and obtained this recording (with help of Keith Flynn) and bringing it online in better audio, you can do so at this PayPal address: grzesiekboro@poczta.onet.

Thanks for any reward!

I hope to bring more rare and unpublished in the future, it's my passion.


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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby skabillyrebels » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:50 pm

Sorry but the YT channel audio is not restored its the raw clip. Anthony Stuchbury
would not have left tape dropouts or the sound you here of the mic being turned on and off on plus a tape dropout Heartbreak Hotel and don't be cruel.IMO
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby Greg1935 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:58 pm

skabillyrebels wrote:Sorry but the YT channel audio is not restored its the raw clip. Anthony Stuchbury
would not have left tape dropouts or the sound you here of the mic being turned on and of on plus a tape dropout Heartbreak Hotel and don't be cruel.IMO


No, it's a version done by Anthony.


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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby skabillyrebels » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:07 pm

Then in my opinion it's not fully restored i have fixed them it took me 10 mins.
but having said that everything in the audio world is subjective.
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby scottwalker » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:40 pm

alberta sheffield wrote:
scottwalker wrote:
TheKingForever wrote:Sadly this isnt something I can enjoy.
I`m very picky when it comes to sound quality so I cant even
listen to the 1961 show and enjoy that.



The Elvis of 1956 is still the same Elvis from 1974.

No. He is not. Not even remotely close.
Or would you tell me that Hound Dog from 1956 is the same as sung by Elvis in 1974? :roll:


Don't think you got the point. I'm not talking about the presentation of a particular song. All the un- and released material, whether it's 1956 or 1974, it's the same person. And I think there was only 1 Elvis, last time I've checked. So yeah, unfortunately for you, I'm right.


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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby Colin B » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:59 pm

TheKingForever wrote:Sadly this isnt something I can enjoy.
I`m very picky when it comes to sound quality so I cant even
listen to the 1961 show and enjoy that.
scottwalker wrote:The Elvis of 1956 is still the same Elvis from 1974.
alberta sheffield wrote:No. He is not. Not even remotely close.
Or would you tell me that Hound Dog from 1956 is the same as sung by Elvis in 1974? :roll:
scottwalker wrote:Don't think you got the point. I'm not talking about the presentation of a particular song. All the un- and released material, whether it's 1956 or 1974, it's the same person. And I think there was only 1 Elvis, last time I've checked. So yeah, unfortunately for you, I'm right.


This depends on the definition of the word 'same'.

By legal definition the man from the two dates is the same one.

But he is also very different.
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby scottwalker » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:07 pm

Colin B wrote:
TheKingForever wrote:Sadly this isnt something I can enjoy.
I`m very picky when it comes to sound quality so I cant even
listen to the 1961 show and enjoy that.
scottwalker wrote:The Elvis of 1956 is still the same Elvis from 1974.
alberta sheffield wrote:No. He is not. Not even remotely close.
Or would you tell me that Hound Dog from 1956 is the same as sung by Elvis in 1974? :roll:
scottwalker wrote:Don't think you got the point. I'm not talking about the presentation of a particular song. All the un- and released material, whether it's 1956 or 1974, it's the same person. And I think there was only 1 Elvis, last time I've checked. So yeah, unfortunately for you, I'm right.




By legal definition the man from the two dates is the same one.




That’s what I've said.



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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby alberta sheffield » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:42 pm

scottwalker wrote:
alberta sheffield wrote:
scottwalker wrote:
TheKingForever wrote:Sadly this isnt something I can enjoy.
I`m very picky when it comes to sound quality so I cant even
listen to the 1961 show and enjoy that.



The Elvis of 1956 is still the same Elvis from 1974.

No. He is not. Not even remotely close.
Or would you tell me that Hound Dog from 1956 is the same as sung by Elvis in 1974? :roll:


Don't think you got the point. I'm not talking about the presentation of a particular song. All the un- and released material, whether it's 1956 or 1974, it's the same person. And I think there was only 1 Elvis, last time I've checked. So yeah, unfortunately for you, I'm right.

Um, the way you presented it: no, you are not right. You were not getting the point.
That the Elvis from 1974 had still the same stomach (for instance ....and other body parts) that he used already in 1956 wasn't the point. Unless you "play" dumb.
And there is a difference of a soundboard from 1974 which there are very many and an unreleased live 56 recording which there are very very few.
(And don't let me even start comparing the performance quality and the state the man was in 1974).
So you are two times wrong. Sorry.



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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby alberta sheffield » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:57 pm

Greg1935 wrote:Its good to know many here claim that my YT channel audio (as restored by Anthony Stuchbury) is better than the MRS release one. I also think so.

For me the MRS sound is a total unlistenable, artificial, fake stereo crap. I cannot listen to it. And that was my honest, initial reaction upon hearing it. Not because of any agenda.

My own, premiere physical release didn't happen and I felt it, but I had to accept the pain and just move on.

I will keep doing what I'm doing.

If any of you would like to reward my work and research having originally found and obtained this recording (with help of Keith Flynn) and bringing it online in better audio, you can do so at this PayPal address: grzesiekboro@poczta.onet.

Thanks for any reward!

I hope to bring more rare and unpublished in the future, it's my passion.

I never cared for the mostly agenda driven discussion (especially by Doc Carpenter) about the legality of MRS and unethical blabla on Feec.
He even had the gall to put down those 3 new live performances (" just barely 2 and a half songs and in poor quality", although the 50s are his favourite period.). While everyone KNOWS if HE had found them and released them he would praise them like you never would imagine and HIM (!!!!) like finding of the lost outtakes of "Hound Dog". So his putting down is laughable in that.
Anyhow, I never cared for that discussion.
But what Mr. Pirzada did here was really not ok and stinks a little.
I hope he loses some sales because of the upload on youtube now.

Ps: the new version of Long Tall Sally is (besides the not greatest quality compared to other 50s live versions) the best I heard -peeformance wise.
When he belts out the opening line you know that Elvis means business handling the song.
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby John » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:41 pm

skabillyrebels wrote:Then in my opinion it's not fully restored i have fixed them it took me 10 mins.
but having said that everything in the audio world is subjective.

I think the final version by Mr Stuchbury has yet to see the light of day.


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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby skabillyrebels » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:11 pm

John wrote:
skabillyrebels wrote:Then in my opinion it's not fully restored i have fixed them it took me 10 mins.
but having said that everything in the audio world is subjective.

I think the final version by Mr Stuchbury has yet to see the light of day.


i hope so. we had a good chat yesterday he rang me and it was nice to catch up.
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Re: Elvis On Fire In Toledo 1956 MRS Release

Postby scottwalker » Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:01 pm

alberta sheffield wrote:
scottwalker wrote:
alberta sheffield wrote:
scottwalker wrote:
TheKingForever wrote:Sadly this isnt something I can enjoy.
I`m very picky when it comes to sound quality so I cant even
listen to the 1961 show and enjoy that.



The Elvis of 1956 is still the same Elvis from 1974.

No. He is not. Not even remotely close.
Or would you tell me that Hound Dog from 1956 is the same as sung by Elvis in 1974? :roll:


Don't think you got the point. I'm not talking about the presentation of a particular song. All the un- and released material, whether it's 1956 or 1974, it's the same person. And I think there was only 1 Elvis, last time I've checked. So yeah, unfortunately for you, I'm right.

Um, the way you presented it: no, you are not right. You were not getting the point.
That the Elvis from 1974 had still the same stomach (for instance ....and other body parts) that he used already in 1956 wasn't the point. Unless you "play" dumb.
And there is a difference of a soundboard from 1974 which there are very many and an unreleased live 56 recording which there are very very few.
(And don't let me even start comparing the performance quality and the state the man was in 1974).
So you are two times wrong. Sorry.


It seems you are not very smart. It doesn't matter how many is available from what year. Unreleased is unreleased.

Toledo 1956
Stateline Nevada 1974 (FTD) *

Both unreleased in any form (* soundboard), performed by the same guy who was born on January 8, 1935 and passed away on August 16, 1977.

How much is available and the mental state of the person in question is irrelevant

I can't make it any easier than this. If you don't understand it yet, maybe seek professional help. Take care.


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